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Farmer-Rick

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42. I think human kind will be forced into a form of socialism
Sat Apr 30, 2022, 11:24 AM
Apr 2022

There is a traditional form of economics. It involves buying and selling stuff in the traditional way like we do at Farmer's markets and such. This is Not Capitalism. And that is where most people get confused. They equate markets with capitalism.

Capitalism is the use of capital, (allowing the collecting of excess capital in just a few hands is a by-product of capitalism,) to control markets and the means of production.

Markets will always be with us. They were there with feudalism and with slavery. Doing away with capitalism will not do away with markets, private ownership, buying and selling or commerce. It will probably do away with stock markets, a lot of banks and corporations, but probably not commodities trading.

We will have to move to a form of socialism because our planet is being destroyed and wars are breaking out due to capitalism. If we don't end it, it will wipe out humankind.

We will have to start planning markets, controlling them for the good of the planet and humanity. We will have to stop one filthy rich person, our a group of them, from using their capital to build a factory or corporations and then making all the decisions for the factory or corporation. It affects too many lives when they inevitably make a bad, wrong and corrupt decision.

We may have to pay farmers and other workers as government workers, much like we do judges and school teachers, to control how they farm and work.

We will have to consider the good of society before allowing a company or corporation to do anything. We will have to allow workers to make decisions on how the corporation or factory will run. If you work there you get a controlling voice there.

This is how I see the future evolving. If it doesn't go there in some form or another, we will slip back to feudalism or wipe out our species.

It's gonna change one way or another.

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Was about to post BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #1
Elon Musk is anti-democratic and full-on republican trash SuperCoder Apr 2022 #2
This is about progressing to space. jimfields33 Apr 2022 #5
He claims to be non-partisan and has supported candidates of both parties IronLionZion Apr 2022 #16
His track record towards President Biden and Prime Minister of Canada shows different rockfordfile Apr 2022 #23
Why do you think this? hueymahl Apr 2022 #18
Musk is a un-American fascist pos. I think he's un-American racist pos. rockfordfile Apr 2022 #21
Wow!!! MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #43
What did he charge us tax payers for this? Emile Apr 2022 #3
I wish NASA was as quick getting things done. jimfields33 Apr 2022 #4
The alternative is paying money to Putin. speak easy Apr 2022 #8
Reportedly no more than the Russians charge for Soyuz rocket missions. speak easy Apr 2022 #7
No I don't want our money going to Putin either! I also don't see privatizing NASA Emile Apr 2022 #9
Cost per launch on NASA's new SLS - $4.1 Billion ($58,000 per kilogram) OnlinePoker Apr 2022 #15
Are you under the impression that NASA built their own rockets before SpaceX? EX500rider Apr 2022 #24
A basic Falcon 9 launch is $62-$70 million OnlinePoker Apr 2022 #17
Exactly hueymahl Apr 2022 #19
"What did he charge us tax payers for this?" EX500rider Apr 2022 #28
Maybe you should check ripcord Apr 2022 #37
Musk is not 'just a young trump' speak easy Apr 2022 #6
Our government had already figured out how to do it. Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #10
SpaceX had 9 failed launches over 10 years. speak easy Apr 2022 #12
"Our government had already figured out how to do it." EX500rider Apr 2022 #29
Doing with our tax dollars? SpaceX was privately funded EX500rider Apr 2022 #30
Not really that diversified Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #11
It starts that way jimfields33 Apr 2022 #13
Oh, I believe you Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #14
Economics? hueymahl Apr 2022 #20
Basic Capitalism.....there are other economic systems Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #32
Capitalism works hueymahl Apr 2022 #36
Yeah, feudalism worked too Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #38
I don't necessarily disagree hueymahl Apr 2022 #40
I think human kind will be forced into a form of socialism Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #42
Socialism is when the government owns the means of production. Never works well EX500rider Apr 2022 #45
"there are other economic systems" EX500rider Apr 2022 #44
Which "classes" are paying more in taxes? former9thward Apr 2022 #31
What? EX500rider Apr 2022 #27
They had one flight for millionaires and one for everyone else Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #33
No EX500rider Apr 2022 #35
If it had nothing to do with diversity Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #39
It's time to support NASA. Increase funding rockfordfile Apr 2022 #22
NASA does not build their own rockets EX500rider Apr 2022 #25
I'm glad you have actually brought reason and facts to this thread ripcord Apr 2022 #34
Exactly Emile Apr 2022 #26
when's... myohmy2 Apr 2022 #41
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