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TomCADem

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Sat Dec 18, 2021, 02:07 PM Dec 2021

Omicron more likely to reinfect than Delta, no milder -study [View all]

Source: Reuters

The results of the study by Imperial College London were based on UK Health Security Agency and National Health Service data on people who tested positive for COVID-19 in a PCR test in England between Nov. 29 and Dec. 11.

"We find no evidence (for both risk of hospitalisation attendance and symptom status) of Omicron having different severity from Delta," the study said, although it added that data on hospitalisations remains very limited.

"Controlling for vaccine status, age, sex, ethnicity, asymptomatic status, region and specimen date, Omicron was associated with a 5.4-fold higher risk of reinfection compared with Delta," the study, which was dated Dec. 16, added.

The protection afforded by past infection against reinfection with Omicron may be as low as 19%, Imperial College (ICL) said in a statement, noting that the study had not yet been peer reviewed.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/omicron-five-times-more-likely-reinfect-than-delta-study-says-2021-12-17/



Well, so much for the Republican/Anti-Vaxxer talking point of just letting COVID wash over people to achieve herd immunity naturally.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/16/trump-appointee-demanded-herd-immunity-strategy-446408

‘We want them infected’: Trump appointee demanded ‘herd immunity’ strategy, emails reveal

A top Trump appointee repeatedly urged top health officials to adopt a "herd immunity" approach to Covid-19 and allow millions of Americans to be infected by the virus, according to internal emails obtained by a House watchdog and shared with POLITICO.

“There is no other way, we need to establish herd, and it only comes about allowing the non-high risk groups expose themselves to the virus. PERIOD," then-science adviser Paul Alexander wrote on July 4 to his boss, Health and Human Services assistant secretary for public affairs Michael Caputo, and six other senior officials.

"Infants, kids, teens, young people, young adults, middle aged with no conditions etc. have zero to little risk….so we use them to develop herd…we want them infected…" Alexander added.

"It may be that it will be best if we open up and flood the zone and let the kids and young folk get infected" in order to get "natural immunity…natural exposure," Alexander wrote on July 24 to Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Stephen Hahn, Caputo and eight other senior officials. Caputo subsequently asked Alexander to research the idea, according to emails obtained by the House Oversight Committee's select subcommittee on coronavirus.
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It may be pointless.... NQAS Dec 2021 #1
Humans have a hard time developing natural paleotn Dec 2021 #2
Dr. Ding has this up on his twittet SheltieLover Dec 2021 #3
+1 thanks for posting SheltieLover! bronxiteforever Dec 2021 #4
Yw, Bronxite! SheltieLover Dec 2021 #6
Anywhere to follow him other than Twitter? hamsterjill Dec 2021 #34
Sorry, no idea SheltieLover Dec 2021 #35
I'm going to question that 70X figure stopdiggin Dec 2021 #5
70X is not about infecting other people, it is how fast it replicates in an individual... Pobeka Dec 2021 #10
Thanks. stopdiggin Dec 2021 #12
To be sure, you have to go read the *original* source to know what they mean. Pobeka Dec 2021 #16
++ appalachiablue Dec 2021 #7
... SheltieLover Dec 2021 #8
S. Africa started this 'rumor' by reporting on actual cases. NH Ethylene Dec 2021 #9
It is not 70x as contagious as Delta. Pobeka Dec 2021 #11
and thanks again. important info. -(nt)- stopdiggin Dec 2021 #13
Supposedly, it's less dangerous because the huge replication stays in the upper airway womanofthehills Dec 2021 #40
I've read that, too SheltieLover Dec 2021 #45
Dr. Ding apparently didn't think it was important to include uncertainy about this study. Pobeka Dec 2021 #15
Yes TimeToGo Dec 2021 #17
I'll take Dr. Ding's word any day as he has been 100% correct for almost 2 years. SheltieLover Dec 2021 #31
He's not even an infectious disease expert. He's mainly a fear porn producer! beaglelover Dec 2021 #42
How many people have died of omicron? former9thward Dec 2021 #33
Yes, sanity enters the conversation! Thank you!!!! beaglelover Dec 2021 #43
Thank you. Maggiemayhem Dec 2021 #41
So they didn't want to panic us and now the truth is out bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #14
The truth isn't out, see post 15. Ace Rothstein Dec 2021 #20
Meanwhile, in real world situations it's the opposite. BannonsLiver Dec 2021 #18
UK is not a real world? LisaL Dec 2021 #19
Hospital numbers are up over a quarter in London compared to last week muriel_volestrangler Dec 2021 #23
"We find no evidence of Omicron having different severity from Delta," yaesu Dec 2021 #21
No, they don't mean there is no evidence it's not as severe as delta. LisaL Dec 2021 #22
No that is not what it means Loki Liesmith Dec 2021 #39
Unvaxxed maskholes are eager to get it and spread it IronLionZion Dec 2021 #24
Replicates 70x faster in bronchus, 10x slower in lungs andym Dec 2021 #25
These studies put out on relatively little data and lots Deminpenn Dec 2021 #26
UK is highly vaxxed and their numbers are going through the roof. LisaL Dec 2021 #28
Everyone was talking about achieving herd immunity in madville Dec 2021 #27
It's hard to achieve herd immunity because covid keeps evolving to evade our immunity, LisaL Dec 2021 #29
Exactly madville Dec 2021 #30
Homicide haunts humanity in many forms. For Republicans it seems to be a hobby. KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2021 #32
How can they be talking about reinfection when its only been around a month? oldsoftie Dec 2021 #36
Re-infections means Omicron can infect people who have been infected previously LisaL Dec 2021 #37
Oh, ok. I would've thought that was a given. oldsoftie Dec 2021 #44
That "no milder" should not be in headline. Loki Liesmith Dec 2021 #38
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