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MBS

(9,688 posts)
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 07:26 PM Jan 2019

Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in admin [View all]

Source: Washington Post.

President Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Russian President Vladimir Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials, current and former U.S. officials said.

Trump did so after a meeting with Putin in 2017 in Hamburg that was also attended by then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. U.S. officials learned of Trump's actions when a White House adviser and a senior State Department official sought information from the interpreter beyond a readout shared by Tillerson.

The constraints that Trump imposed are part of a broader pattern by the president of shielding his communications with Putin from public scrutiny and preventing even high-ranking officials in his own administration from fully knowing what he has told one of the United States' main adversaries.
As a result, U.S. officials said there is no detailed record, even in classified files, of Trump's face-to-face interactions with the Russian leader at five locations over the past two years. Such a gap would be unusual in any presidency, let alone one that Russia sought to install through what U.S. intelligence agencies have described as an unprecedented campaign of election interference.

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is thought to be in the final stages of an investigation that has focused largely on whether Trump or his associates conspired with Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign. The new details about Trump's continued secrecy underscore the extent to which little is known about his communications with Putin since becoming president.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-has-concealed-details-of-his-face-to-face-encounters-with-putin-from-senior-officials-in-administration/2019/01/12/65f6686c-1434-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html?utm_term=.72a9560d5082



WOW.

update, 12 hours later: This article is now about 4-5X longer than the original online article. Added material includes administration's attempts to defend itself, details about the interpreters, and reaction from various congressional representatives and security experts.
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K&R. I'm just surprised the linguist hasn't been in some "unfortunate accident" yet. ck4829 Jan 2019 #1
She hasn't been subpoenaed by a House committee yet. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2019 #66
tweet from Rep.Swalwell (Jan 13) MBS Jan 2019 #88
Marina Gross is her name. sarcasmo Jan 2019 #77
She.... MarcoZandrini Jan 2019 #79
She... spinbaby Jan 2019 #80
Good thing the note taker can still testify. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #2
Yes, I hope she/he is called soon, before some "accident" happens. brush Jan 2019 #27
Gosh. Such a relief to know something has begun to happen. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #28
It does seem it's starting happen. Dems taking the House seems to have spurred... brush Jan 2019 #32
No shocker, Leghorn21 Jan 2019 #3
Trump is a traitor. A Russian spy is in the Oval Office. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #4
+1 CountAllVotes Jan 2019 #15
I blame Russia, the GOP, and a few others. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #22
Treasonous Trump Hides Details Of Putin Meetings From His Own Government Gothmog Jan 2019 #50
What amazes me is how some are so surprised to hear this and won't believe it. nini Jan 2019 #24
There's a lot to read in those faces htuttle Jan 2019 #34
Who's yer daddy, donald? calimary Jan 2019 #78
Supboena the translator..... ASAP, like NOW or Yesterday.... alittlelark Jan 2019 #5
Maybe DU 'should' have a media news arm, or 2. pangaia Jan 2019 #51
A subpoena is getting ready for the translators as we speak, I hope.nt TeamPooka Jan 2019 #6
The man is a traitor to his country Botany Jan 2019 #7
No administration representatives, even the pResident, should be able to hold LuckyLib Jan 2019 #8
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2019 #9
This issue, all by itself, deserves a Benghazi-level investigation Fiendish Thingy Jan 2019 #10
THIS. KPN Jan 2019 #67
I wonder if anyone from Mueller's team janx Jan 2019 #11
K&R orangecrush Jan 2019 #12
The translator should be in protective custody...n/t bluecollar2 Jan 2019 #13
I sure hope he is. n/t MBS Jan 2019 #14
For the two-hour secret meeting in Helsinki, it was Marina Gross dalton99a Jan 2019 #17
Well she should be in protective custody... bluecollar2 Jan 2019 #33
This is the behavior of a totes innocent person, btw. RockRaven Jan 2019 #16
Wow and more. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #18
The FBI had no choice but to investigate. kentuck Jan 2019 #19
He's not leaving crumbs Generic Brad Jan 2019 #21
Okie dokey Fuzzpope Jan 2019 #20
Flashback to the sentence for treason UpInArms Jan 2019 #23
As crazy as that is, they weren't even executed for treason blugbox Jan 2019 #68
More actions that add to the evidence the monster qualifies as another Enoki33 Jan 2019 #25
Kevin McCarthy: "There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2019 #26
I thought he didn't allow an American to do the Translation, only a Russian. alfredo Jan 2019 #29
A lot of people have made this kind of claim. Igel Jan 2019 #45
I saw it as trump not trusting the American translator. alfredo Jan 2019 #61
At dinner with Putin in Hamburg July 2017, he used only Putin's interpreter MBS Jan 2019 #89
I also remember one instance when he just used the Russian interpreter. MBS Jan 2019 #65
If the DoJ buries Mueller's report or make changes, can the House subpoena the report? alfredo Jan 2019 #82
I've been fervently hoping so, but I don't know the answer. n/t MBS Jan 2019 #85
Well, if there's no law against it, the Trump admin. will do. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #30
I expect to hear the phrase "executive privilege" tossed about... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2019 #31
Oh Oh......Not good for Mr. Trump. ... NO GOOD FOR MR. TRUMP Stuart G Jan 2019 #35
There is so much to hide. dalton99a Jan 2019 #36
well no shit. barbtries Jan 2019 #37
I looked but did t see your post. This is big news. underpants Jan 2019 #38
He needs to be gone... N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2019 #39
The Times and The Post, elleng Jan 2019 #40
This story complements the NYT one... regnaD kciN Jan 2019 #54
Yes elleng Jan 2019 #55
I'm fascinated that this is all coming out now. femmedem Jan 2019 #41
Interesting analysis. Better take Pence out to. Pepsidog Jan 2019 #43
Really good points, thanks. MBS Jan 2019 #64
Traitor Pepsidog Jan 2019 #42
where is the outrage...? FirstLight Jan 2019 #44
Glad to be the 100th Rec. suffragette Jan 2019 #46
Whatchya got under the rug there, Donald? Blue Owl Jan 2019 #47
Maybe he didn't want the intimate details of their relationship exposed Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #48
Trump swore interpreter to secrecy after Putin meeting and took away notes: Gothmog Jan 2019 #49
Yes. Not just looking back but at the time that sent up flags underpants Jan 2019 #52
Pretty sure there isn't a section of the Presidential Records Act that covers meadowlander Jan 2019 #59
Wow! DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #53
If I was one of those linguists, I'd be worried that Trump or Putin would off me. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #56
This is amusing Gothmog Jan 2019 #57
I think I recently read that tRump was referred to as "agent trump" BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #62
Pathetic lapdog is more accurate. saidsimplesimon Jan 2019 #70
Vanity Fair agrees: MBS Jan 2019 #71
thanks MBS saidsimplesimon Jan 2019 #72
K&R bdamomma Jan 2019 #58
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump admits it and then argues that working for Russia doesn't break any world wide wally Jan 2019 #60
Subpoena the interpreter Gothmog Jan 2019 #63
Wonder what part of cheetox's brain Maxheader Jan 2019 #69
Gee I wonder if Mueller has already taken testimony from the translators? LiberalFighter Jan 2019 #73
I've been hoping that this might be the case. n/t MBS Jan 2019 #75
This is all Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh's fault. WhoWoodaKnew Jan 2019 #74
House Dems, subpoena Marina Gross, now! sarcasmo Jan 2019 #76
Good! CountAllVotes Jan 2019 #81
Hopefully she's already talked to Mueller Talitha Jan 2019 #83
Wow, since the Dem landslide in the House, we're really seeing action! BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2019 #84
K&R, thanks for posting red dog 1 Jan 2019 #86
my feeling as well. MBS Jan 2019 #87
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