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27. One important point ...

Reply to LastLiberal in PalmSprings (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:13 PM

Jan 2018

Is that Russia, like the USSR, takes advantage of pre-existing divisions and dissatisfactions.

It was pointed out that this kind of thing in California has been going on for decades. It's been a grievance for decades. When the USSR was busy elsewhere, when Russia was too weak to bother, and before Putin started agitprop over such things.

The ultimate solution to this kind of tactic is, sadly, to resolve the issues. Otherwise, they are made worse, pretty much by both sides, in predictable ways. In some respects, the process is just hastened and attitudes firmed up.

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