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PatrickforO

(15,271 posts)
28. Well, see, we have common ground.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 09:06 PM
Jun 2017

I'm an economist, so naturally I consider economic issues very important to quality of life.

As to social justice issues, yes they are quite important. I will concede that for the affected groups, social justice may well outstrip economic justice in importance. But this is why the right wing keeps winning elections. We get divided, either purposely by opponents, who throw in wedge issues like this Kovalik seems to be doing, or stupidly, by doing it to ourselves. In the meantime, Republicans agree on a few major talking points, POUND on those over and over and over, and win elections.

That's all I'm saying. We surely have morality on our side and are generally the party of common decency. Where we fail miserably is agreeing upon, and then coalescing around, common, easily understood kitchen table issues. We just don't do that well, and our failure to set effective priorities that are attractive not only to our base, but to independent center voters, who outnumber us, is what keeps us irrelevant and out of power.

Obama is a great man, and was a great president. I worked as a volunteer in both of his campaigns, even though he governed a bit too centrist for my tastes. But the place he, Pelosi, Reid and the rest of the Dems failed on was trumpeting their accomplishments and how those accomplishments translate into jobs, better healthcare and so on for the common American. Sure, this information was all on websites for wonks like me, but it sure as hell didn't hit the mainstream.

We just do NOT message well. For example, ask a Republican about the ACA and he'll likely say, "oh, the JOB-KILLING Obamacare! Blah, blah, blah." The key phrase being 'job killing.' But look at the reality: between 2008 and 2016, during and after the implementation of the ACA, employment in the healthcare industry in the USA went from 13,642,846 jobs in 2008 to 15,646,503 in 2016. In other words, instead of killing jobs, Obamacare caused healthcare to grow 15% (just over 2 million new jobs) over the ten year period.

That's just one example. We had huge job growth in the private sector, but employment in government went down by 293,625 while private sector jobs grew robustly.

According to the BLS unemployment report published Friday, June 2, America only added 138,000 new jobs last month. But where are we talking about how anemic that job growth is! If Obama were in office, his average job growth from 2012 on was 241,000 jobs a month, while under the Trump 'administration,' job growth hasn't even averaged 200k per month. Where are we talking about that? We should be trumpeting that.

How will we pay for roads? Trains? What about net neutrality? What about fucking Flint, for God's sake? Those people still have undrinkable water. What the fuck? This is America!

And then we have the Dem who bowed out of the race in Iowa due to death threats from inbred, ignorant, illiterate, ku klux motherfuckers. What the hell? Why aren't we getting the FBI taking care of that???? That's fucking illegal and goes against everything this nation stands for.

Well, excuse the rant. Until we get the Russia-treason-act of war thing out of the way, all this other stuff necessarily goes back burner. But we really DO need to learn to message A LOT better. A lot.

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Hell no! LW1977 Jun 2017 #1
Jobs and racism? The twin issues the media pressed on during the campaign? LisaM Jun 2017 #2
Yea nice try Ohioblue22 Jun 2017 #3
Fuck anyone trying to save Trump's traitor ass. PubliusEnigma Jun 2017 #4
Just went to the "Real News Network" site Maven Jun 2017 #5
"alt-left" Ha! Matthew Rose Jun 2017 #9
Yes, alt-left. Maven Jun 2017 #27
I'm with the other guy who answered you. Who in the hell on the so-called 'alt-left' PatrickforO Jun 2017 #22
There are many on the alt-left who deny Russian intervention because it screws with their narrative Maven Jun 2017 #24
Well, see, we have common ground. PatrickforO Jun 2017 #28
There are those who would argue lapucelle Jun 2017 #33
But but, Trump says "the economy is starting to come back" progree Jun 2017 #34
That would not be my definition of the alt left . lunasun Jun 2017 #37
no surprise, and just the other day Amie Parnes, was pushing the false narrative that Democrats still_one Jun 2017 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Leghorn21 Jun 2017 #6
naw, the Dem caucus has been very circumspect about collusion, well except Maxine Waters... Thomas Hurt Jun 2017 #7
Chortle. byronius Jun 2017 #8
What is Stone's angle? obamachangetheworld Jun 2017 #10
I think I would agree with Scott Dworkin in the article obamachangetheworld Jun 2017 #11
Agree but I'd add... 'or a Trump humping dense as a doorknob fool.' nt WePurrsevere Jun 2017 #13
I call bullshit. denbot Jun 2017 #12
Give up "the Russia story"?? The Russians pretty much hand selected someone and installed them in -Steph- Jun 2017 #14
We have a president who is trying to destroy our relationship with most of our ALLIES -- pnwmom Jun 2017 #15
Alt left is fake left... Kovalik... WePurrsevere Jun 2017 #16
I want Democrats on both Russia while also pushing our policies/ideas. chowder66 Jun 2017 #17
OK, if you are a Dem member of Congress and someone asks you why we are PatrickforO Jun 2017 #18
Fake news. Regurgitated bull crap. Pathwalker Jun 2017 #19
Yep. No Democrats called for dropping the Russia investigation. According to the article, Squinch Jun 2017 #32
Follow the rubles (e.g. Comrade Stein) nt geek tragedy Jun 2017 #20
As if Dems have the power to change the narrative at this point. MGKrebs Jun 2017 #21
hmmm... so is he saying we are so small and stupid that we can't do logosoco Jun 2017 #23
I wouldn't give it up exactly as there still needs cstanleytech Jun 2017 #25
"Putin first leader to offer help after 9/11." Um... Beartracks Jun 2017 #26
Bullshit! My ass! hamsterjill Jun 2017 #29
Real News Network TomSlick Jun 2017 #31
Good grief! I hope someone is taking names. We have been attacked by a foreign country. McCamy Taylor Jun 2017 #35
Total nonsense. A foreign country interfering w/our election is one of the most serious things... Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #36
I agree with your last sentence . They will try , no doubt about it lunasun Jun 2017 #38
No way... Baconator Jun 2017 #39
So frustrating and so transparent. n/t MBS Jun 2017 #40
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