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303. "Put out a product"?

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 07:11 PM

Jan 2017

Is that how you saw the candidates? As merchandise to be sold to the public? Was the former pragmatist a "new and improved" revolutionary? It was all a marketing campaign?

I think it's safe to say at this point that that we see things very differently. Thankfully, some who were fooled in 2000 weren't so gullible this time around. Hopefully, if anything like this ever happens again, those who were misled in 2016 will have learned from the consequences of their mistake.

And as for this:

"I'm at peace with my vote and with your contempt,"

my list of contemptibles is limited to third party spoilers and narcissistic no shows who weren't "inspired" enough to exercise a right that some people are still fighting to secure, so I'm sure you're safe from my approbation.

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Obama says Sanders' supporters helped undermine Obamacare [View all] DonViejo Jan 2017 OP

The increase in premiums did not help astrophuss42 Jan 2017 #1

Since almost all of those increases were paid for by the government, pnwmom Jan 2017 #15

Anecdotally I heard a lot of folks astrophuss42 Jan 2017 #49

Rates had been increasing for decades. But since the ACA subsidized payments pnwmom Jan 2017 #73

They had solid numbers astrophuss42 Jan 2017 #81

our premium went up a lot ( Oklahoma) but with the subsidy we pay less OKNancy Jan 2017 #84

We don't trivialize their experiences. We just have an inconvenient habit of looking past .... Hekate Jan 2017 #95

Reminds me of someone's POSUCS post. nt tblue37 Jan 2017 #117

Uh-huh Hekate Jan 2017 #119

Bingo. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #125

Oh yeah mcar Jan 2017 #263

This sheshe2 Jan 2017 #126

I guess checking facts (remember them?) NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #128

Non sequitur. nt fleabiscuit Jan 2017 #156

My daughter-in-law's premiums went up by about 40% this year. SlimJimmy Jan 2017 #186

"Out of pocket" Sedona Jan 2017 #228

When I was referring to out of pocket I was meaning her deductible. SlimJimmy Jan 2017 #273

Pre- ACA increases,,,,, Cryptoad Jan 2017 #75

Anecdotally we've had a few here Hekate Jan 2017 #90

I heard Hillary was a flawed candidate, also, from the same people who now OWN Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #106

Good point, wonder how many progressive ideas will pass in the next two to four years. Thinkingabout Jan 2017 #279

The government subsidy zentrum Jan 2017 #145

Well said. (eom) CanSocDem Jan 2017 #229

Exactly... RazBerryBeret Jan 2017 #289

Except for most people that's not how it works. sherihah Jan 2017 #149

yea potus shouldnt have raised premiums like he did Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #39

Between 2000 and 2010, premiums rose up to 150% - who did you blame then? blm Jan 2017 #59

i blame the insurance companies for the rates they set Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #63

they could've chosen to NOT raise rates, but, they get cover from RW media blaming ACA blm Jan 2017 #66

Oh damn, another inconvenient truth Hekate Jan 2017 #103

And you think premiums wouldn't rise if ObamaCare was not in place? LiberalFighter Jan 2017 #43

It was bad timing is all astrophuss42 Jan 2017 #55

Oh please stop with the victim whining NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #130

Right, it had no impact on the election astrophuss42 Jan 2017 #134

Rubio is responsible for much of the increase in insurance premiums by eliminating Akamai Jan 2017 #290

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #46

He even got Politifacted over it astrophuss42 Jan 2017 #51

The nominal increase in premiums overall (yes, there were some that were large, but... George II Jan 2017 #98

Not to mention that the increased premiums paid for better insurance TexasBushwhacker Jan 2017 #112

Precisely. Remember when there were a couple of hundred thousand people who had to change... George II Jan 2017 #114

my basic obamacare plan still had a $75 a month premium. another plan was no premium costs. Sunlei Jan 2017 #231

Sanders' attacks on President Obama did not help his cause with some demographic groups Gothmog Jan 2017 #2

BS wanted President Obama primaried in 2012.. he just didn't want to Cha Jan 2017 #160

Hmmmmmm Me. Jan 2017 #164

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm backatcha Cha Jan 2017 #165

I'm pretty sure both Obama and Hillary would prefer single player. LisaM Jan 2017 #3

Like the minimum wage - they railed against Clinton because she back first an increase to $12.... George II Jan 2017 #10

Exactly. Amimnoch Jan 2017 #50

How did republicans kill the government option? Nt hughee99 Jan 2017 #116

3 bills passed by Dems in the House, but killed by cloture and the Senate finance committee. Amimnoch Jan 2017 #123

The repigs and Lieberman had some help ... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #175

Right on! LiberalLovinLug Jan 2017 #305

"In other words, he's correcting the spin that a 46% unfavorable opinion doesn't mean 46% suffragette Jan 2017 #346

Or free college tuition. Dream Girl Jan 2017 #78

Now they'll get a big fat nuthin' Hekate Jan 2017 #99

Instead of progressing slower they're going to be going backward. George II Jan 2017 #100

And downhill. In a go-kart. Hekate Jan 2017 #102

And blaming Clinton and DWS the whole way. Charles Bukowski Jan 2017 #118

Some of them would rather see the world burn NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #132

And some would rather feel superior OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #188

Fighters? NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #267

As I said, some like to feel superior. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #270

To be sure, I do feel superior NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #335

Keep feeling' it. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #336

Deepak Chopra?? Really? NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #337

Superiority, really? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #338

Stuck on the "superiority" thing, eh? NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #339

Yes, it's despicable. And embarrassing for a Democrat. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #340

"I love that you have to keep posting" NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #342

Oh yes, please threaten me that you won't respond any more. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #343

There is a measure of irony in your allegation that "some like to feel superior..." LanternWaste Jan 2017 #344

I think it's been years since you've weighed in on one of my threads. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #345

But this is a case of letting the good be the enemy of the perfect. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #22

I don't recall anyone ridiculing single payer. LisaM Jan 2017 #32

Excuse me? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #41

It may be brer cat Jan 2017 #82

OK, sure. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #168

That person obviously had/has something against Obama, and those comments are "anecdotal"* George II Jan 2017 #92

What world do you live in? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #173

I was referring to the author of the blog to which you linked, not Rahm Emanuel: George II Jan 2017 #177

And the comments are they still unsubstantiated OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #181

So then, who was in that "private meeting" where that was said? George II Jan 2017 #237

OMG. Look at the LINKS. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #285

Hold your powder! I support single payer. LisaM Jan 2017 #93

I actually don't recall any of Clinton's surrogates even bringing up the TPP... George II Jan 2017 #96

List OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #180

Two VERY bad examples! Both of those (Kerry and Perez) are members.... George II Jan 2017 #236

Voters confusing what Obama supports for what Clinton supports is ludicrous? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #286

Jerry Seinfeld: "I wish I had the last 20 seconds of my life back". Have a great night! George II Jan 2017 #321

Oh snappy. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #326

I believe Obama supported single payer. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #97

Her being a realist does not mean that she doesn't think it's the best system. LisaM Jan 2017 #142

I think Hillary's reason for opposing single payer at that time -Jan, 2016 is valid-and she clearly riversedge Jan 2017 #143

No one who fought for single player or who supported Sanders OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #174

Anyone who voted Stein or didn't bother to go to the polls helped Trump. lapucelle Jan 2017 #253

And you have no evidence that the people OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #280

"Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it." lapucelle Jan 2017 #288

You continue to claim third party voters being responsible while OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #292

I'm not insulting people who fight for better. lapucelle Jan 2017 #296

Um, you are. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #300

"Put out a product"? lapucelle Jan 2017 #303

Narcissistic no shows? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #304

Yes, narcissistic no shows not inspired enough to get off their butts and go to the polls. lapucelle Jan 2017 #312

In your view it was the right thing. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #315

You don't get to define my view, and I don't have to engage lapucelle Jan 2017 #318

I'm not trying to define your view. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #319

So the 300,000+ Democrats in Florida truebluegreen Jan 2017 #327

Why would they be less responsible? lapucelle Jan 2017 #330

First my apologies. I responded to the wrong post. truebluegreen Jan 2017 #331

That is not ridicule mcar Jan 2017 #264

It is. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #275

Obama did not ridicule mcar Jan 2017 #291

Apparently because you feel the same as he does, OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #293

Umm, what? mcar Jan 2017 #297

Whatevs. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #298

What in the holy hell are you talking about? mcar Jan 2017 #299

See above: OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #301

No, you can't read between my lines mcar Jan 2017 #306

As I said previously, whatevs. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #311

THIS! calimary Jan 2017 #104

Of course they would.. and that's why they started out with something Cha Jan 2017 #309

Truth is truth. WhiteTara Jan 2017 #4

Perhaps your 'side' of the party. YOHABLO Jan 2017 #7

You mean an actual Democrat? WhiteTara Jan 2017 #11

You mean the corporate dems. ciaobaby Jan 2017 #68

your name says it all WhiteTara Jan 2017 #76

You win the back and forth, but... mpcamb Jan 2017 #85

Does someone... tonedevil Jan 2017 #210

So go follow WhiteTara Jan 2017 #240

Not going anywhere... tonedevil Jan 2017 #257

Well, that is a less rude WhiteTara Jan 2017 #259

Actual Democrat... tonedevil Jan 2017 #260

Good to know. WhiteTara Jan 2017 #262

Bernie is the best friend our party has ever seen, he is only trying to steer us in the right (left) putitinD Jan 2017 #86

No, he's not. Hillary Won the Primary by almost 4 Million Votes and Cha Jan 2017 #226

Exactly Tara. Cha Jan 2017 #151

Well the ACA was a Heritage Foundation contrived plan in the first place. YOHABLO Jan 2017 #5

How dare you undermine it by pointing out it was a Republican plan! OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #13

The "Republican plan" that no actual Republicans supported in the '90's emulatorloo Jan 2017 #135

And Romney. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #166

What we have now is so much better than what we had before the ACA..... George II Jan 2017 #16

Any idea why President Obama "changed his mind?".... DonViejo Jan 2017 #17

Who said he "changed his mind"? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #25

Here you go... DonViejo Jan 2017 #26

You miss my point. Not who on DU typed that, OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #44

I remember Obama supporting single-payer health system as he first ran for president. Akamai Jan 2017 #294

You do know that the public option OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #295

My bet is because he probably didnt see a viable way to a single payer system that those cstanleytech Jan 2017 #33

They couldn't block anything at the time OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #48

There are plenty of ways to make passing bills difficult either procedural or politically cstanleytech Jan 2017 #83

Actually, there aren't. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #167

Ah, those were the days, eh? Ligyron Jan 2017 #109

Ditto. nt. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #189

So? It was the only thing we could get past a filibuster. The 60th vote pnwmom Jan 2017 #18

Lieberman was such an ass mdbl Jan 2017 #69

Nobody forced Sanders to vote "yes" on the ACA in 2009. lapucelle Jan 2017 #52

That doesn't even make sense. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #193

So when President Obama brer cat Jan 2017 #239

Bernie didn't run on overturning the ACA killbotfactory Jan 2017 #247

I guess two Pinochios isn't really that bad. lapucelle Jan 2017 #251

From the completely neutral Washington post killbotfactory Jan 2017 #265

Were the stories false? lapucelle Jan 2017 #272

Pragmatism is a strategy that only some are allowed to embrace. Others get villified. lapucelle Jan 2017 #249

Fascinating how that works, isn't it? brer cat Jan 2017 #250

Wow -- your statement again makes no sense. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #281

I have never said he shouldn't have voted for it. brer cat Jan 2017 #307

I do understand. That's what you don't understand. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #313

I never told anyone to shut up brer cat Jan 2017 #314

I agree this is wasted effort. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #316

Obama campaigned on his plan having a "public option".... PoliticAverse Jan 2017 #61

You are just bashing.. you have no idea what happened. Cha Jan 2017 #152

Not me. Jane Austin Jan 2017 #6

It's the outrageous premiums each month that undermined Obamacare. $1500/mo for two people! Turn CO Blue Jan 2017 #8

But I still am happy with it as a first step - especially the pre-existing condition part. n/t Turn CO Blue Jan 2017 #14

i am a single person on a cobra and consider myself lucky mopinko Jan 2017 #21

You haven't ever paid COBRA payments or you wouldn't find that outrageous. pnwmom Jan 2017 #23

True. And when I had to pay COBRA payments, it cost me about $700/month. calimary Jan 2017 #28

I had to do the same thing for the same reason. And we were both pnwmom Jan 2017 #37

Meaningless without knowing the person's income treestar Jan 2017 #70

Premium costs are based on age. It's a third of our income. Turn CO Blue Jan 2017 #89

I hear you Kilgore Jan 2017 #163

The Chicago apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #9

i *don't* remember this orleans Jan 2017 #29

I'm no Bernie swooner, but I didn't feel like he trashed ACA Skittles Jan 2017 #12

Thanks, Skittles; with you, as I wrote below, elleng Jan 2017 #20

You are correct. Read this full quote and see if the headline of this op is not... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #194

I believe your assessment is correct, Hassin Bin Sober Skittles Jan 2017 #325

It's a chicken and egg thing, imo Bradical79 Jan 2017 #268

Sorry, Sir, I must take issue elleng Jan 2017 #19

That's the headline. Obama doesn't seem to have used the term "undermine" LisaM Jan 2017 #27

I suspected that to be the case, LisaM. elleng Jan 2017 #38

Don't get me started! LisaM Jan 2017 #47

HA! elleng Jan 2017 #53

But in all of the "examination" of events,some insist that no matter the issue, guillaumeb Jan 2017 #31

Right, guill. elleng Jan 2017 #42

Exactly. +100 Duppers Jan 2017 #221

Isn't Obamacare really just Romneycare from the 90's? jalan48 Jan 2017 #24

Exactly....This LovingA2andMI Jan 2017 #36

It also ran over budget and saw double digit annual increases CentralMass Jan 2017 #58

So did ALL insurance plans. And they will until we control drug costs. n/t pnwmom Jan 2017 #170

Yes, but the issues was that both plans were sold as reducing costs. CentralMass Jan 2017 #172

They still might have. When other states were having 20% annual increases, pnwmom Jan 2017 #176

I was a life long Ma resident until 2015.. My own HMO + others CentralMass Jan 2017 #192

Your experience with multiple years of double digit increases doesn't seem typical. pnwmom Jan 2017 #200

The issues us that both RomneyCare and the ACA promised to CentralMass Jan 2017 #207

For a short period of time costs went up but then costs went down. pnwmom Jan 2017 #211

Admittedly im no policy expert here but my anecdotal experience CentralMass Jan 2017 #219

If so Republican opposition now is suspect treestar Jan 2017 #74

They have moved further to the right as have the Democrats. jalan48 Jan 2017 #88

This OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #182

Because a Black President signed it into law. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #105

Bingo! treestar Jan 2017 #108

That's what those say who want to bash the Presidentl Cha Jan 2017 #154

Not sure who "Those" are but in any event, I'm not into group think. jalan48 Jan 2017 #245

Nevertheless that's what they say. Cha Jan 2017 #310

So? Romney managed to get elected Gov. of one of the most liberal states in the country. pnwmom Jan 2017 #169

So, that is the health care program Obama chose to copy for his program. jalan48 Jan 2017 #244

No, and I know YOU know it. We couldn't have passed ANYTHING pnwmom Jan 2017 #317

- Bigredhunk Jan 2017 #30

this is why dems lose Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #62

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #34

IKR? Wouldn't even discuss single payer, then a public option was off the table. MindPilot Jan 2017 #54

Single Payer couldn't even get passed in Vermont. President Obama Cha Jan 2017 #225

Thanks to those continually bashing the lack of single payer we'll be without the ACA altogether. George II Jan 2017 #243

That's a term that has no currency any more. Probably not for a couple of decades. Hekate Jan 2017 #107

You have got to be joking... cannabis_flower Jan 2017 #146

President Obama is speaking the truth.. too bad for those Cha Jan 2017 #157

This Is BS.... LovingA2andMI Jan 2017 #35

I'm glad President Obama is telling it exactly like it. Too bad everyone is Cha Jan 2017 #223

This message was self-deleted by its author Amimnoch Jan 2017 #40

We have to be realistic. HassleCat Jan 2017 #45

So who doesn't want single-payer? TheCowsCameHome Jan 2017 #56

I am in awe of Bernie Sanders' remarkable power. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #57

Continue to barnstorm the country in the service of selling books lapucelle Jan 2017 #87

! brer cat Jan 2017 #252

Mr. Hammer meet Mr. Nailhead. BunkieBandit Jan 2017 #101

No, he didn't do it single handedly.. if you're paying attention there Cha Jan 2017 #158

He made Baby Jesus cry!!! QC Jan 2017 #208

He's right. We witnessed it right here. We've never been further away from single payer than we... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #60

Yeah, now they're all in denial. Cha Jan 2017 #159

What's really sad is that ACA could possibly have been the best stepping stone to single payer. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #178

Right.. excellent point.. it very well could have led to Single Payer Cha Jan 2017 #184

There was no realistic chance for single payer Progressive dog Jan 2017 #64

While most Democrats were disappointed Obama bailed on Single Payer before Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #65

Right there with you, Dustlawyer. JudyM Jan 2017 #323

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jan 2017 #67

Way to to go Obama - divide the party further. ciaobaby Jan 2017 #71

+1 SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #122

This. retrowire Jan 2017 #127

The thing is, the headline doesn't even accurately describe the point Obama is making. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #187

There will always be people who want to blame Bernie. OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #195

The Presdient is speaking the truth.. too bad for those who can't Cha Jan 2017 #155

+1 OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #196

Oh President Obama isn't the one who divided the Party.. don't you Cha Jan 2017 #205

He is spot on bravenak Jan 2017 #72

He is right. The general air of unpopularity treestar Jan 2017 #77

Yep, its all Bernies fault elmac Jan 2017 #79

There were never enough votes for single payer. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #137

I noticed you didn't get a response to Bernie's own words. Wonder why? Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #328

Lol....no clue????!!!1? sheshe2 Jan 2017 #329

Nope.. you're putting words in President Obama's mouth.. he didn't Cha Jan 2017 #209

I think sort of misleading article title hollowdweller Jan 2017 #80

"The mandatory part"? yallerdawg Jan 2017 #94

Now all the complainers sold out to the banksters and the corporates...... Historic NY Jan 2017 #91

No. Obama undermined the American public when he gave up the public option Roland99 Jan 2017 #110

No sheshe2 Jan 2017 #138

You do realize that single payer and the public option are two different things, right? OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #197

Facts get confusing at times Roland99 Jan 2017 #235

You've exactly made President Obama's point. Get your facts straight Cha Jan 2017 #222

Except I'm not. The public option was tossed aside at the beginning Roland99 Jan 2017 #234

If he had tried pushing the corporate owned Dems we could have had the single payer Scalded Nun Jan 2017 #111

They never had the votes for single payer. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #139

Saying that single payer would be better is not Bettie Jan 2017 #113

As well it should! ananda Jan 2017 #115

Of COURSE it would be "so much better" NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #136

I posted above, twice. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #140

I know, my friend NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #266

He's wrong to take it personally. moondust Jan 2017 #120

President Obama is not wrong.. he's speaking the truth. Cha Jan 2017 #190

What you and he are saying moondust Jan 2017 #256

President Obama speaks the truth. Cha Jan 2017 #282

Bull Shit..What Obama got with his Obamacare was nothing more than a bill INdemo Jan 2017 #121

What President Obama got was helping People who couldn't afford Health Cha Jan 2017 #227

i think I mentioned that advantage ...but the ACA INdemo Jan 2017 #241

There is enough blame the go around. hrmjustin Jan 2017 #124

Ha Ha, After All The Shit Sanders Has Said About Obama otohara Jan 2017 #129

You Win the DAMN Thread! Exactly, Otohara! Cha Jan 2017 #161

Thanks Cha otohara Jan 2017 #274

No, I didn't know you met Hillary! Cha Jan 2017 #284

That's absurd. LS_Editor Jan 2017 #131

You are correct, if not for AARP & other groups sounding the alarm on dae Jan 2017 #198

A few things that really hurt public opinion of the ACA IMO MichMan Jan 2017 #133

left/right extremes always hurt. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2017 #141

The problem is not that they think Obamacare is a failure."... per the rest of the quote Talk Is Cheap Jan 2017 #144

Yep bad headline. Obama does have a IDGAF attitude also. n/t underpants Jan 2017 #254

My premium went down Politicub Jan 2017 #147

Yes, a point we've tried to make for six years. MadamPresident Jan 2017 #148

Sanders wanted President Obama Primaried in 2012.. but, he didn't Cha Jan 2017 #150

The only thing is, that isn't remotely the point Obama was making. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #199

Bernie supporters aren't the victims here. BainsBane Jan 2017 #217

Which plan is better? The ACA or Single Payer? Fearless Jan 2017 #153

The only plan that was politically POSSIBLE was better. n/t pnwmom Jan 2017 #171

At no point would anyone who was voting for the ACA not vote for it Fearless Jan 2017 #191

I think he put the cart before the horse. dogman Jan 2017 #162

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #179

K & R SunSeeker Jan 2017 #183

Obama is right that Berniue was promoting single payer, as were a lot of us from day one. napi21 Jan 2017 #185

President Obama is right. Cha Jan 2017 #201

Listen LittleGirl Jan 2017 #202

No surprise there. Although, his supporters were following the standard set by Sanders himself. Lil Missy Jan 2017 #203

I know Lil Missy.. it's a fact and now they're trying to deny it. don't Cha Jan 2017 #212

I like the president HassleCat Jan 2017 #204

Rabid zealots rarely do good in any situations. JNelson6563 Jan 2017 #206

I have to agree with President Obama on this one. I thought it was strange because underthematrix Jan 2017 #213

It took 80 years to get it passed ucrdem Jan 2017 #214

+10000000000 Hekate Jan 2017 #218

Excellent response, ucr.. thank you! Cha Jan 2017 #224

In all fairness - the pony wasn't included. n/t Lil Missy Jan 2017 #248

And it wasn't called Berniecare. ucrdem Jan 2017 #258

He's right. Calling Obama and the ACA a "POS," did not help. Hopefully, GOPers will be Hoyt Jan 2017 #215

The headline misrepresents the Obama quote. Eric J in MN Jan 2017 #216

This headline vs the actual context are not in agreement with one another at all. phleshdef Jan 2017 #220

My health insurance got worse after ACA was passsd, not better Larkspur Jan 2017 #230

I remember when Hillary said something like, 'Medicare for all, can not happen' it hurt her campaign Sunlei Jan 2017 #232

So we are not allowed to criticize? Lunabell Jan 2017 #233

There weren't the votes for single payer.. you can criticize but Cha Jan 2017 #238

Well said Cha, thanks still_one Jan 2017 #320

Thank you stillone for appreciating what we had. Cha Jan 2017 #322

K&R betsuni Jan 2017 #242

Really, Lets talk about what Joe Lieberman did to single payer turbinetree Jan 2017 #246

I thought his plan should be tweaked to make it single payer Generic Other Jan 2017 #255

He is correct, as usual mcar Jan 2017 #261

I'm no longer conservative enough to be a Democrat. MindPilot Jan 2017 #269

if Dems think bashing progressives is a winning strategy, they are in for another beating in 2018 yurbud Jan 2017 #271

Maybe he should have fought harder truebluegreen Jan 2017 #276

Keep trolling the Bernie people, how could that do anything but help the mess we are in? n/t HopeAgain Jan 2017 #277

Welcome to DU! OrwellwasRight Jan 2017 #283

President Obama is speaking the truth.. and you call that trolling. the Cha Jan 2017 #308

Denial... HopeAgain Jan 2017 #332

Hillary won the Primary by almost 4 Million Votes.. She won the Cha Jan 2017 #333

I totally disagree lunatica Jan 2017 #278

We all want that, as far as I've seen. Seems like a misguided smear on his part, disappointed in him JudyM Jan 2017 #324

A major reason for the rate increases was Marco Rubio's passage of "a poison pill." Akamai Jan 2017 #287

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Jan 2017 #302

How fucking ridiculous. I am surprised he resorted to this level of idiocy. m-lekktor Jan 2017 #334

I don't know what Sanders supporters have to do with the unpopularity from the left wing side JonLP24 Jan 2017 #341