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28. What exactly would that accomplish?

Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:22 AM

Dec 2016

The Democrats still do not have the actual votes to confirm.

In any event, many here seem to forget that Reid nuked the filibuster for all executive and non-Supreme Court appointments. Except for a little showmanship that the Republicans can quickly and effectively squash, unless Trump's nominees fail to gain Republican approval, they will be confirmed.

In fact, if I were Trump or McConnell, I would let the Democratic Senators delay for some time and then quietly discuss Democratic hypocrisy concerning obstructionism. Given the public mood and the fact that Trump's numbers are actually fairly high as he just won the election, I imagine the Republicans would once again outmaneuver our Party.

The real fight is Trump's pick for the Supreme Court. If there ever was a time to "keep the powder dry," it's now. Democratic Senators need to pull-out all the stops, and if they're already damaged from losing earlier confirmation battles, Trump will soon be gloating once again.

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Democrats to give Trump Cabinet picks the Garland treatment [View all] kebob Dec 2016 OP

It's not revenge to refuse to accept people who are clearly livetohike Dec 2016 #1

and even if it is, who cares? whathehell Dec 2016 #50

Live by obstruction...you best be prepared to have some thrown back beachbum bob Dec 2016 #2

Then you at least know who you are dealing with. Joe Manchin as already said still_one Dec 2016 #8

Manchin rtracey Dec 2016 #34

Actually, he is worse than a DINO, he is a f**king republican. The only value still_one Dec 2016 #53

+100 BigDemVoter Dec 2016 #87

1000 sheshe2 Dec 2016 #46

Live by obstruction...you best be prepared to have some thrown back oley Dec 2016 #103

They should be telling the Republicans... yallerdawg Dec 2016 #3

I second that motion...................... turbinetree Dec 2016 #9

What exactly would that accomplish? branford Dec 2016 #28

They need to be selective... Blanks Dec 2016 #36

Reading many posts in this thread and others branford Dec 2016 #41

More than 70% of voting age Americans... yallerdawg Dec 2016 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author Ghost OF Trotsky Dec 2016 #97

Our strategy is to remove the DINOS True_Blue Dec 2016 #59

So, your electoral strategy is to have a "purer" party branford Dec 2016 #61

In other words, Democrats should cave every time? hamsterjill Dec 2016 #48

There's a difference between voting against... Blanks Dec 2016 #58

Well ALL of the appointments thus far are inappropriate. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #67

They need to vote against the appointments... Blanks Dec 2016 #76

PICK their battles? The Rethuglicans did not PICK Bohunk68 Dec 2016 #100

Also, every appointee has serious problems that Dems can highlight lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #79

It's more a case of picking our battles Ghost OF Trotsky Dec 2016 #98

The Republicans have obstructed and been richly rewarded adigal Dec 2016 #96

The President of the United States nominated a Supreme Court justice. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #43

We really can't. branford Dec 2016 #63

I don't understand. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #65

Garland is now a non-entity regardless of whether his treatment was fair. branford Dec 2016 #69

Thank you!!!! hamsterjill Dec 2016 #68

Fire is catching DK504 Dec 2016 #44

I agree, Garland nom first. Absolutely. AND he should be confirmed wordpix Dec 2016 #71

Those who voted for Trump need to realize what they have done. gordianot Dec 2016 #4

That headline is very wrong--Dems did not say they would without riversedge Dec 2016 #5

while Republicans shove in every incompetient 'Leader' they can, trump will worry about dinner plans Sunlei Dec 2016 #19

You know this does give Trump exboyfil Dec 2016 #6

There is NO delayed transition. Obamas transition team has had everything ready for a YEAR. Sunlei Dec 2016 #14

I agree totally with that sentiment exboyfil Dec 2016 #25

Count on him to speak out in a major way as soon as he is a Free American citizen. Sunlei Dec 2016 #27

Won't they use the nuclear option? doc03 Dec 2016 #7

If they start willy nilly doing that BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #22

As far as cabinet humbled_opinion Dec 2016 #29

"Harry Reid destroyed any chances to stop them by using the nuclear option" BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #47

Big talk let's see if they stick to it! Va Lefty Dec 2016 #10

They do like to talk big don't they? leftofcool Dec 2016 #15

We were ROBBED. Dems should rainy Dec 2016 #11

Let's just hope that humbled_opinion Dec 2016 #31

Garland does not have enough votes for confirmation branford Dec 2016 #35

I'm with you on that but repukes want it ALL wordpix Dec 2016 #72

The big difference is, kebob is that Garland was qualified and Cha Dec 2016 #12

I Hope For the Same Thing kebob Dec 2016 #89

REALLY! Cha Dec 2016 #92

every question is for public-record so Republicans & their president are responsible for any harm. Sunlei Dec 2016 #13

That would matter only if there was effective public discussion about facts. We need far better MSM JudyM Dec 2016 #51

Democratic Senators better show some spine and follow through on this. Paladin Dec 2016 #16

Mattis has his own Benghazi exboyfil Dec 2016 #33

How is any waiver unconstitutional? branford Dec 2016 #39

BS. They will lay down and roll over. leftofcool Dec 2016 #17

Well and then there is that, lol harun Dec 2016 #20

They will as they always do because rainy Dec 2016 #37

Rue the day Freepers harun Dec 2016 #18

good, have spine and don't worry about it treestar Dec 2016 #21

If they're 'not sure' a candidate is qualified they are better off voting no, 1-10 yrs from Sunlei Dec 2016 #32

I love some of the ideas posted above, BUT..... northoftheborder Dec 2016 #23

What is still left BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #49

I hope they learned obstruction well; they've had 8 years of lessons. lonestarnot Dec 2016 #24

I'll believe it when I see it. CrispyQ Dec 2016 #26

They're just going to go nuclear. MadamPresident Dec 2016 #30

An excellent post. CrispyQ Dec 2016 #62

the only way out is either via the recount OR wordpix Dec 2016 #73

Absolutely spot-on. We should have buried them in 2009. Instead they lived to fight again. Tatiana Dec 2016 #104

I expect my party to be the loyal opposition mountain grammy Dec 2016 #38

Shouldn't the voters decide this in the mid-terms? Coyotl Dec 2016 #40

No revenge needed greymattermom Dec 2016 #42

Don't let that asshole even have a cabinet, he doesn't even know what a President does. putitinD Dec 2016 #52

RESIST...and this time REALLY DO IT. N/t Guilded Lilly Dec 2016 #54

Wasn't the Titanic treatment available? mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2016 #55

They should definately pin Sessions down on the issue of marijuana hollowdweller Dec 2016 #56

We need to prepare NOW for a fact...Everything that goes wrong with trump (and there will be plenty) Tikki Dec 2016 #57

start with trolling him on twitter wordpix Dec 2016 #74

He should get nothing. Loki Dec 2016 #60

The senate can still confirm Garland Retrograde Dec 2016 #64

If the people decided this election, and not the electoral college, then Garland would be confirmed. wisteria Dec 2016 #66

good, I support Senate Dems 100% wordpix Dec 2016 #70

Excellent. sinkingfeeling Dec 2016 #75

With his picks, revenge need not be even mentioned as a motive. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2016 #77

I support this tactic dreamland Dec 2016 #78

Persoanally, I LOVE it!! We dems have always been the nice/conciliatory party... iluvtennis Dec 2016 #80

Democrats doing their job and actually fighting Generator Dec 2016 #81

So far there aren't many who are qualified. They should be stopped. Vinca Dec 2016 #82

President Obama Should Resubmit Garland's Name To The Senate DallasNE Dec 2016 #83

We should just slow track everything and smother the rest bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #84

This isn't just tit for tat; Trump's noms are utterly incompetent and/or cray cray. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #85

AND it's about GODDAMNED time. BigDemVoter Dec 2016 #86

Hope they really get a backbone! burrowowl Dec 2016 #88

Good luck with that... 9 Dems will eventually break ranks davidn3600 Dec 2016 #90

It's not actually revenge jimlup Dec 2016 #91

So what if it takes a while? Trump bragged how smart he is and how much he knows. keithbvadu2 Dec 2016 #93

The Dems have a responsibility to do this Mountain Mule Dec 2016 #94

It's not revenge. There's no equivalency here. This is the RIGHT move. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #95

"What's wrong with revenge?" lastlib Dec 2016 #99

Shut Trump down. Period. MrModerate Dec 2016 #101

Hell Yeah! MarinCoUSA Dec 2016 #102

Dems shouldn't be 'obstructionist" . . . MrModerate Dec 2016 #105