when I have posted the statistics that "red" states on average receive more from the public trough than "blue" states, i.e. blue states are subsidizing the red states, the freepers heads blow off. They deny it. They claim the statistics are wrong. When I ask them to please present statistics that contradict my facts they of course have none.
I keep telling the few conservatives that I have maintained in my life (infrequent casual friends and relatives) they vote against their own interests and the interests of their families when they vote for Republicans.
They respond that they need to protect the rights of the unborn, make sure they can own as many guns as they want and, even though they know I am gay, be sure those homosexuals don't get any "special" rights.
When I ask them if their standard of living, i.e. relative take-home pay and purchasing power, has improved over the past 25 years they all clear their throats and say well no not really. Then they try to change the subject. When I point out that the 1% have done very well over those 25 years they again try to change the subject.
I ask them if protecting the rights of the unborn, owning as many guns as possible and keeping gays from being treated equally are really more important than ensuring they will be able to put healthy food on the table, pay off their mortgage, provide good healthcare for their families, save for retirement, give more to charity, etc. they say yes. They believe they may have to sacrifice personally so that abortion is made illegal, gays don't get any special rights and Obama doesn't take away their guns.
I conclude with a sigh and realize nothing will change their minds.