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41. I NEED NO CREDIBILITY FROM ANYONE HERE

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:05 AM

Jun 2012

I ALREADY HAVE MY MORALITY. THAT DOES NOT COME FROM YOU OR FROM ANYONE HERE FOR THAT MATTER. I AM NOT SEEKING CREDIBILITY EITHER, I ALREADY KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT, I ALREADY KNOW WHATS GOING ON AND WHAT TO CALL THINGS. AND I ALREADY KNOW WHAT IS AT STAKE. WHY DO I NEED CREDIBILITY FROM YOU TO KNOW THIS?

I NEED NOTHING FROM YOU. PERIOD. IN FACT IT IS YOU, THAT NEEDS SOMETHING FROM ME. AND THATS TWO EYES. I SEE FINE, THANK YOU. YOU NEED TO SEE, NOT ME. IF ANYTHING, AS I HAVE SWORN BEFORE TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, YOU SHOULD HAVE CREDIBILITY BEFORE ME THAT YOU EVEN KNOW HOW TO BE A GOOD CITIZEN. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS I WOULD RISK MY OWN LIFE FOR.

NO...YOU NEED THE CREDIBILITY. NOT ME. NO...YOU ARE NOT ON MY TEAM. PERIOD. YOU ARE NOT WORTH IT EITHER.
UNDERSTAND THAT.

I DEMAND NOTHING FROM YOU EITHER, I AM NOT A DICTATOR. ALL I ASK YOU DO, IS GO AWAY FROM ME. LEAVE MY SIGHT IS ALL THAT I WOULD ASK YOU IF YOU QUESTION MY CREDIBILITY ON THESE MATTERS.
UNDERSTAND THIS.

Meanwhile...The Progression continues....

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The truth about the Fast and Furious scandal [View all] goodhue Jun 2012 OP

re: The truth about the Fast and Furious scandal allan01 Jun 2012 #1

In other words, the truth about the scandal is.......... PDJane Jun 2012 #2

the attitude of the U.S. Attorney office in Pheonix seems the heart of the problem . . . goodhue Jun 2012 #4

Thanks, goodhue. Somehow this rings true. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #19

Who was supposed to brief Burke? snot Jun 2012 #21

good question goodhue Jun 2012 #22

Burke called Grassley's staff "Stooges for the Gun Lobby" for Fast & Furious probe: article wordpix Jul 2012 #118

The NRA need to go clang1 Jun 2012 #81

Hurley was reassigned in 2011 wordpix Jul 2012 #117

Kand R for the NRA crowd Kingofalldems Jun 2012 #18

Good find, and thanks for posting. Far too many right wingers and even some here have criticized ATF Hoyt Jun 2012 #3

"you don't stop valuable work just because some..." PavePusher Jun 2012 #10

Thanks for your support. Hoyt Jun 2012 #11

There is some question as to whether the gun that killed the border patrol guard JDPriestly Jun 2012 #20

Only the published news reports. PavePusher Jun 2012 #29

As I said, you need some forensic evidence about the bullet. Guns could JDPriestly Jun 2012 #90

Just for the record, such a matching may not be possible/available. PavePusher Jun 2012 #91

Without it and without witnesses????? JDPriestly Jun 2012 #92

Uh, not sure what you're asking there. n/t PavePusher Jun 2012 #93

I'm wondering how anyone can claim that the killing was related to the weapons found at JDPriestly Jun 2012 #94

It's actually almost irrelevent if that was the specific gun used to kill Terry or not. PavePusher Jun 2012 #95

Holder was lied to. That is why he said what he did. That is why, when he learned JDPriestly Jul 2012 #96

"And now, Holder is investigating this." PavePusher Jul 2012 #97

Holder was not informed of the lie until earlier this year. He could not begin to JDPriestly Jul 2012 #99

Sorry, any military officer who was this out of control of her/his unit.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #100

Was a military officer booted for My Lai, for the torture at Abu Ghraib, for JDPriestly Jul 2012 #113

Yes, actually, many were fired/demoted/court-martialed/fined/relieved. PavePusher Jul 2012 #114

West: not just "conservative," but downright dangerous. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #116

It's right in the article: malthaussen Jun 2012 #32

Thank you, just got home and was going to post that. n/t PavePusher Jun 2012 #35

The guns were discovered at the murder scene, but was the bullet that killed JDPriestly Jun 2012 #80

So ATF has no one on duty during a holiday? National security issue that no one's minding the store wordpix Jul 2012 #119

Yeah a drop in the bucket of 2000 guns a day flooding across the border. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #27

So, the cartels are getting their full-auto AK's and their RPG's.... PavePusher Jun 2012 #28

You and I both know it's totally legal for a person to buy a full-auto AK, or RPG, in the US. boppers Jun 2012 #34

Which takes a Federal background check and several months to obtain.... PavePusher Jun 2012 #36

So, yeah, legal in the US. boppers Jun 2012 #39

I never said it wasn't legal.... but it's not the route the traffickers are using.... PavePusher Jun 2012 #40

Nope. No pictures. Just memories. boppers Jun 2012 #44

"assault uniforms"? "the attitude of the gun dealers"? PavePusher Jun 2012 #50

If you have a tactical vest, it *will* be used as evidence. boppers Jun 2012 #67

Here in the US? Or in Mexico? PavePusher Jun 2012 #70

The Uniform game? boppers Jun 2012 #72

So U.S. LE uniforms were being taken to Mexico and used in fake raids there? PavePusher Jun 2012 #74

Nonono, wait, I must not have been clear. boppers Jun 2012 #77

Turns out that's *exactly* the route the trafficers were using. boppers Jun 2012 #66

You're the one that brought in the "full auto" strawman. PavePusher Jun 2012 #69

Post #28 boppers Jun 2012 #71

Hmmm, apparently your sarcasmometer is out of calibration. PavePusher Jun 2012 #73

The cartels have a wide variety of hardware. boppers Jun 2012 #75

2000 guns a day flooding across the border? Link? rl6214 Jul 2012 #102

. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #105

Oh come on, you're not going to trot out that "truth" about the nra BS now are you? rl6214 Jul 2012 #107

So you trot out a right-wing blogger who thinks Obama really IS plotting to take guns away with F/F? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #109

Just the first google item I found that said Katherine Eban was an anti-gun zealot rl6214 Jul 2012 #110

Somehow I get the impression he is in your favorites. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #111

Who would this be you are talking about? rl6214 Jul 2012 #115

aw, give the NRA a break ---they want EVERYONE to own guns, drug cartels included wordpix Jul 2012 #120

"you don't stop valuable work just because some..." boppers Jun 2012 #33

The ATF could not stop the sale of those guns Sekhmets Daughter Jun 2012 #49

Had nothing to do with Arizona laws... PavePusher Jun 2012 #51

weakest gun violence prevention laws in the nation goodhue Jun 2012 #54

What "gun violence prevention laws" should we have? PavePusher Jun 2012 #55

The laws the ATF were hoping to enforce were federal goodhue Jun 2012 #56

Again, what laws should we have? PavePusher Jun 2012 #58

I was merely responding to assertion that Arizona's laws are not different from other states goodhue Jun 2012 #59

Most states do not have these restrictions. What makes Arizona a special case? PavePusher Jun 2012 #63

The content is not mine, but rather from the LCPVG goodhue Jun 2012 #85

As to what states should have, look to LCPCV's Model Laws . . . goodhue Jun 2012 #60

May I see your government issued First, Fourth, Thirteenth and Twenty-sixth Amendment licences... PavePusher Jun 2012 #62

I'm just sharing some model laws by interest group goodhue Jun 2012 #84

I guess I don't get to see those Permits, eh? PavePusher Jul 2012 #98

agree, but someone should be on duty during a holiday - ATF missed suspicious activity faxed to them wordpix Jul 2012 #121

IT IS THE ATF'S FAULT PERIOD. AND MANY MORE PEOPLES FAULT clang1 Jun 2012 #38

Yes. And some of that information may be about certain ATF agents themselves. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #79

"No federal statute outlaws firearms trafficking" naaman fletcher Jun 2012 #5

I had exactly the same reaction. That is complete bullshit! slackmaster Jun 2012 #6

ALSO naaman fletcher Jun 2012 #7

If you don't get past the 2nd paragraph, then you're missing out on a lot of pertinent detail goodhue Jun 2012 #23

yes of course naaman fletcher Jun 2012 #25

I'm not sure it's an error goodhue Jun 2012 #48

Exporting a firearm without a license to do so is a federal crime. So is providing one to anyone... slackmaster Jun 2012 #87

can you say whitewater? pansypoo53219 Jun 2012 #8

Fuck the National Republican Association. nt onehandle Jun 2012 #9

Perfect +1000000000000000000000000 Hoyt Jun 2012 #12

Propaganda. They have though. That is all that matters. clang1 Jun 2012 #13

THINK ABOUT IT....THEY ARE ACHIEVING THEIR GOAL THEY ARE DISRUPTING THE ELECTIONS clang1 Jun 2012 #14

IT IS TREASON. Understand, please. clang1 Jun 2012 #15

You keep responding to... yourself. PavePusher Jun 2012 #17

I NEED NO CREDIBILITY FROM ANYONE HERE clang1 Jun 2012 #41

Why are you screaming? rl6214 Jul 2012 #103

Do you now understand about CREDIBILITY? n/t clang1 Jun 2012 #42

No, I only understand that you are doing the Internet equivalent of shouting... PavePusher Jun 2012 #52

I have responded to one poster who claims Holder is Kingofalldems Jun 2012 #16

It is CORRUPTION clang1 Jun 2012 #24

K & R Scurrilous Jun 2012 #26

Excellent Reporting That Shows The NRA and Issa Conspiracy Mongering TomCADem Jun 2012 #30

Call it Mongering clang1 Jun 2012 #37

Don't Bogart that ... my friend UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #65

Unfortunately, upon seeing her sources, I strongly doubt that the story is either factual or correct Big_Mike Jun 2012 #64

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Would make a hell of a novel malthaussen Jun 2012 #31

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No BIG DEAL ? clang1 Jun 2012 #53

Fortune reporter on AC360 . . . goodhue Jun 2012 #46

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If it turns out that the guns weren't walked (whatever that actuall means), truthisfreedom Jun 2012 #57

Yes. EVERYTHING must be considered. I see what I think is the OBVIOUS clang1 Jun 2012 #61

GOP/NRA gun nut witch hunters can kiss it jpak Jun 2012 #68

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Link to Katherine Eban on Current TV . . . goodhue Jun 2012 #86

I'm sorry... I know I don't have all the facts... but,,, lib2DaBone Jul 2012 #101

Great read underpants Jul 2012 #104

Stay-behinds. Moles. sofa king Jul 2012 #106

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Chilling, indeed. DanTex Jul 2012 #112

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