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In reply to the discussion: 'Suicides' Over Ashley Madison Hack [View all]Xithras
(16,191 posts)53. You are accusing me of overreacting?
What I find vile is there seems to be more remorse here for the cheaters than the ones who were betrayed by the looks of this post.
It's remorse for DEAD PEOPLE. The fact that you have no remorse over a death simply because the dead hurt someones feelings is very telling. The two events are even remotely comparable, and yet you let one drive your opinion of the other.
Your reply is classic example of the over-emotional zealotry
Over emotional zealotry? Like thinking that dead people don't deserve sympathy simply because they were shitty at relationships? You've got one hell of an example of emotional zealotry there yourself.
The emotional one here is you, and not me. I couldn't give a damn if people are cheating on their spouses. Not one tiny bit. I don't get upset at it, because it's not my situation to be upset with. What other people do within the confines of their relationships is none of my business, and as a LIBERAL, I'm not going to judge them for it. I think it's silly to get upset at another persons infidelity. Moralizing over someone elses marriage is never acceptable.
As for that last line, your understanding of fiat justitia ruat caelum is flawed if you think it applies here. It's not about not failing to factor in the consequences, but about KNOWING the consequences and choosing to do it anyway. It's another way of saying "Pursuing justice will cause harm to many, including innocents, but I'm willing to cause that harm in my pursuit of justice". It's the belief that justice must be pursued simply for the sake of justice, and that the consequences, damage, and fallout of the pursuit are irrelevant to the validity of the pursuit itself. And you chose to invoke that when talking about cheaters dying, after lamenting the sympathy shown to them.
Just as importantly, you seem to be saying that invading the privacy of millions of people by breaking into computer systems and stealing personal data, committing extortion, and driving people to suicide is less of a crime than behaving in a way your spouse might find offensive. THAT is offensive.
It's remorse for DEAD PEOPLE. The fact that you have no remorse over a death simply because the dead hurt someones feelings is very telling. The two events are even remotely comparable, and yet you let one drive your opinion of the other.
Your reply is classic example of the over-emotional zealotry
Over emotional zealotry? Like thinking that dead people don't deserve sympathy simply because they were shitty at relationships? You've got one hell of an example of emotional zealotry there yourself.
The emotional one here is you, and not me. I couldn't give a damn if people are cheating on their spouses. Not one tiny bit. I don't get upset at it, because it's not my situation to be upset with. What other people do within the confines of their relationships is none of my business, and as a LIBERAL, I'm not going to judge them for it. I think it's silly to get upset at another persons infidelity. Moralizing over someone elses marriage is never acceptable.
As for that last line, your understanding of fiat justitia ruat caelum is flawed if you think it applies here. It's not about not failing to factor in the consequences, but about KNOWING the consequences and choosing to do it anyway. It's another way of saying "Pursuing justice will cause harm to many, including innocents, but I'm willing to cause that harm in my pursuit of justice". It's the belief that justice must be pursued simply for the sake of justice, and that the consequences, damage, and fallout of the pursuit are irrelevant to the validity of the pursuit itself. And you chose to invoke that when talking about cheaters dying, after lamenting the sympathy shown to them.
Just as importantly, you seem to be saying that invading the privacy of millions of people by breaking into computer systems and stealing personal data, committing extortion, and driving people to suicide is less of a crime than behaving in a way your spouse might find offensive. THAT is offensive.
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Some say it was an inside job, how many employees had fun reading all the messages from
Sunlei
Aug 2015
#1
I read that "Pass12345" was the password to VPN in and get root (admin) access to all their servers
PersonNumber503602
Aug 2015
#62
Apples and Oranges. One is branding cheaters as sinners. The other is forcing them to be...
Moonwalk
Aug 2015
#33
It's only justifiable if that was their intent -- and even then, that's debatable
Bonnie Blue
Aug 2015
#81
I didn't say they were noble whistleblowers, I said that might be justification.....
Moonwalk
Aug 2015
#82
I do not care who screws who.(just leave the kids alone) , my feelings about this
seaotter
Aug 2015
#38
But a lot of folk here are happy about what Snowden did. He released private info....
Moonwalk
Aug 2015
#34
Exactly. It's not so much about "releasing private information without permission",
Nye Bevan
Aug 2015
#59
Corporations sell and trade our personal info all the time, they should face prison time.
Dont call me Shirley
Aug 2015
#67
Does "self-righteous" and "lack of remorse" refer to the hackers or the adulterers?
LanternWaste
Aug 2015
#26
Maybe they shouldn't have been cheating if getting caught was so traumatic to them
FLPanhandle
Aug 2015
#37