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longship

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4. Nope. Click through to my link, above.
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 11:26 PM
Jun 2015

All acupuncture studies that show positive results have common traits.

* They are unblinded, which should condemn them outright.
* They show results that are no better than placebo, which should condemn them outright.
* If there is anything studies show is that it does not matter where one sticks the needles; it does not even matter if one sticks needles. In other words, acupuncture is a failed medical modality.
* Acupuncture is an invasive procedure. People are sticking actual needles into people. It is unethical to perform such a thing which shows absolutely no efficacy beyond placebo.

I will repeat my link to medical studies on acupuncture: https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/reference/acupuncture/

Acupuncture is utter rubbish.

There is no such thing as Xi. It is magical thinking, which is also rubbish. Remember, "Xi spelt backwards is crap." (Perry DeAngelis -- a skeptic of some note)

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150 years is a long time rpannier Jun 2015 #1
Acupuncture? Really? longship Jun 2015 #2
actually it has shown some efficacy in studies for pain and other conditions restorefreedom Jun 2015 #3
Nope. Click through to my link, above. longship Jun 2015 #4
did you look at my links? restorefreedom Jun 2015 #5
and the founder of sbm is a well known skeptic of pretty much everything restorefreedom Jun 2015 #7
Steven Novella is an academic clinical neurologist. longship Jun 2015 #8
you are free to look at the literature yourself restorefreedom Jun 2015 #10
1. It does not matter where you stick the needles. longship Jun 2015 #11
You and I are always on the same page but.......... Capt.Rocky300 Jun 2015 #12
Anecdotal evidence is not evidential beyond a single case study. longship Jun 2015 #13
He had constant symptoms.... Capt.Rocky300 Jun 2015 #14
If it fails the scientific method, it fails as a hypothesis. longship Jun 2015 #16
Yes, you have fallen into confirmation bias The Second Stone Jun 2015 #25
What is Qi? longship Jun 2015 #28
Yeah, just because it works for you doesn't mean that it works The Second Stone Jun 2015 #15
It is unethical for physicians to prescribe placebos. longship Jun 2015 #17
there are many professionals who disagree restorefreedom Jun 2015 #19
Anecdotes are not evidence. longship Jun 2015 #27
the links i provided were of blinded studies restorefreedom Jun 2015 #29
But acupuncture is based on Qi. And Qi is magic woo-woo. longship Jun 2015 #30
that is your opinion and you are free to have it restorefreedom Jun 2015 #31
Time will not help Qi becoming real. longship Jun 2015 #33
again, that is your opinion and you are welcome to it restorefreedom Jun 2015 #34
Indeed, RIP Speed. longship Jun 2015 #35
same here restorefreedom Jun 2015 #39
Acupuncture was introduced here from China some 50 years ago, and it was Cal33 Jun 2015 #20
There is no alternative medicine. There is only medicine, based on science. longship Jun 2015 #26
Acupuncture is limited to certain types of ailments. It's not a cure-all for everything. It Cal33 Jun 2015 #42
There is no scientific study conducted in a double blind manner The Second Stone Jun 2015 #24
Do you really believe all these colleges would be offering the courses (with Masters and Cal33 Jun 2015 #46
hang the flag of rubbish on the shell of a dead tortoise to better illustrate how clever we are... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #45
He died because his lady friend's husband came home early. tclambert Jun 2015 #6
Maybe he ran one race too many. randome Jun 2015 #47
How Sad! 2naSalit Jun 2015 #9
If he hadn't wanted to live in a zoo SnakeEyes Jun 2015 #37
I was allowed to hand-feed him once. Codeine Jun 2015 #18
Pfft, I was allowed to ride Speed.... Brother Buzz Jun 2015 #22
Probably something along the lines of Codeine Jun 2015 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Brother Buzz Jun 2015 #21
he had a good um...walk.... dhill926 Jun 2015 #23
.. Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #32
Years ago, I saw two of the tortoises at the San Diego zoo 'enjoy a moment' suffragette Jun 2015 #36
I saw two of the big tortoises mating, too. Bette Noir Jun 2015 #40
This was @ 25 years ago. suffragette Jun 2015 #44
I wonder how he got the name Speed. Calista241 Jun 2015 #41
Speed would've been born about 1865. I mean, hatched. nt raccoon Jun 2015 #43
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