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(6,171 posts) Sat Jun 20, 2015, 10:30 PM Jun 2015

Speed the 150-year-old tortoise dies at San Diego Zoo [View all]

Source: Yahoo! News / AP

SAN DIEGO (AP) — One of San Diego's oldest residents has died.

The Los Angeles Times reports that the Galapagos tortoise known as Speed has been euthanized at an estimated age of more than 150 years.

Speed had been living at the San Diego Zoo since 1933. He was brought to California as part of an early effort to preserve the endangered species from the Volcan Cerro Azul Island of the Galapagos Islands, off Ecuador.

The massive tortoise had been in geriatric decline for some time. Keepers treated his arthritis and other maladies with medication, hydrotherapy, physical therapy and acupuncture.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/speed-150-old-tortoise-dies-san-diego-zoo-223444901.html

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Speed the 150-year-old tortoise dies at San Diego Zoo [View all] Little Tich Jun 2015 OP

150 years is a long time rpannier Jun 2015 #1

Acupuncture? Really? longship Jun 2015 #2

actually it has shown some efficacy in studies for pain and other conditions restorefreedom Jun 2015 #3

Nope. Click through to my link, above. longship Jun 2015 #4

did you look at my links? restorefreedom Jun 2015 #5

and the founder of sbm is a well known skeptic of pretty much everything restorefreedom Jun 2015 #7

Steven Novella is an academic clinical neurologist. longship Jun 2015 #8

you are free to look at the literature yourself restorefreedom Jun 2015 #10

1. It does not matter where you stick the needles. longship Jun 2015 #11

You and I are always on the same page but.......... Capt.Rocky300 Jun 2015 #12

Anecdotal evidence is not evidential beyond a single case study. longship Jun 2015 #13

He had constant symptoms.... Capt.Rocky300 Jun 2015 #14

If it fails the scientific method, it fails as a hypothesis. longship Jun 2015 #16

Yes, you have fallen into confirmation bias The Second Stone Jun 2015 #25

What is Qi? longship Jun 2015 #28

Yeah, just because it works for you doesn't mean that it works The Second Stone Jun 2015 #15

It is unethical for physicians to prescribe placebos. longship Jun 2015 #17

there are many professionals who disagree restorefreedom Jun 2015 #19

Anecdotes are not evidence. longship Jun 2015 #27

the links i provided were of blinded studies restorefreedom Jun 2015 #29

But acupuncture is based on Qi. And Qi is magic woo-woo. longship Jun 2015 #30

that is your opinion and you are free to have it restorefreedom Jun 2015 #31

Time will not help Qi becoming real. longship Jun 2015 #33

again, that is your opinion and you are welcome to it restorefreedom Jun 2015 #34

Indeed, RIP Speed. longship Jun 2015 #35

same here restorefreedom Jun 2015 #39

Acupuncture was introduced here from China some 50 years ago, and it was Cal33 Jun 2015 #20

There is no alternative medicine. There is only medicine, based on science. longship Jun 2015 #26

Acupuncture is limited to certain types of ailments. It's not a cure-all for everything. It Cal33 Jun 2015 #42

There is no scientific study conducted in a double blind manner The Second Stone Jun 2015 #24

Do you really believe all these colleges would be offering the courses (with Masters and Cal33 Jun 2015 #46

hang the flag of rubbish on the shell of a dead tortoise to better illustrate how clever we are... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #45

He died because his lady friend's husband came home early. tclambert Jun 2015 #6

Maybe he ran one race too many. randome Jun 2015 #47

How Sad! 2naSalit Jun 2015 #9

If he hadn't wanted to live in a zoo SnakeEyes Jun 2015 #37

I was allowed to hand-feed him once. Codeine Jun 2015 #18

Pfft, I was allowed to ride Speed.... Brother Buzz Jun 2015 #22

Probably something along the lines of Codeine Jun 2015 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author Brother Buzz Jun 2015 #21

he had a good um...walk.... dhill926 Jun 2015 #23

.. Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #32

Years ago, I saw two of the tortoises at the San Diego zoo 'enjoy a moment' suffragette Jun 2015 #36

I saw two of the big tortoises mating, too. Bette Noir Jun 2015 #40

This was @ 25 years ago. suffragette Jun 2015 #44

I wonder how he got the name Speed. Calista241 Jun 2015 #41

Speed would've been born about 1865. I mean, hatched. nt raccoon Jun 2015 #43