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In reply to the discussion: DU General Election Season Begins Soon: What You Need To Know [View all]Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)317. Presumptive nominee is not the nomiee
        In all fairness to the 46% plus democrats that support Bernie, they shouldn't be forced to endorse the presumptive one until she officially is the nominee.   These are unusual times given the 100 plus FBI agents investigating Hillary. 
There is no logical reason to end supporting Bernie who is a viable democratic presidential.  Any claims who will get the nomination is pure conjecture.  No one has a crystal ball and six weeks in a very long time in which just about anything could happen. 
								
                                        
                                        
							
								 
								
									
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        That's a very uncharitable suggestion of all the people who choose not to or cannot pay.
        AtheistCrusader
        Jun 2016
        #211
      
        
        People used to buy others a star in the past. Usually if the person was a valued member who
        kerry-is-my-prez
        Jun 2016
        #276
      
        
        I don't have extra $$ to donate to DU like I used to. I don't appreciate the assumption
        auntAgonist
        Jun 2016
        #521
      
        
        Thank you. And I hope there will be a big ass link to the rules page at the start of each forum!
        Native
        Jun 2016
        #11
      
        
        I have to agree. It only serves to drive the people we need away from our party and candidate.
        kerry-is-my-prez
        Jun 2016
        #278
      
        
        The flaw is that some people here are 'organized' and they will keep alerting on a post
        -none
        Jun 2016
        #303
      
        
        By your standards Bernie would be a conservative as well. Lumping Hillary in
        redstateblues
        Jun 2016
        #427
      
        
        New Democrats love foreign wars and intervention in conflicts having nothing to do with us.
        Ikonoklast
        Jun 2016
        #489
      
        
        If they are shot down unanimously, as one would expect to be the case if it is totally frivolous,
        Nitram
        Jun 2016
        #88
      
        
        Skinner, if the posting of Jury Results was alert-able violation - we'd quickly learn not to do it.
        vkkv
        Jun 2016
        #165
      
        
        I would be less inclined to pay for a star in order to serve on juries if...
        ChisolmTrailDem
        Jun 2016
        #272
      
        
        I  just took myself off the willing to serve.  If I can't find out what happened....
        trueblue2007
        Jun 2016
        #519
      
        
        I just served on a jury for the 1st time under new rules, totally unsatisfying!
        mentalsolstice
        Jun 2016
        #520
      
        
        My first reaction was not to like this too but I think in the new incarnation of the jury system it
        stevenleser
        Jun 2016
        #197
      
        
        That must have been a great deal of work for Elad!  Good luck with this, I really hope it works
        MADem
        Jun 2016
        #23
      
        
        Sounds good, a lot of us can do better individually, and we can all do better collectively nt
        geek tragedy
        Jun 2016
        #27
      
        
        I do a lot of SQA IRL if you need help. AND I get the cast off my hand today so I can be effective!!
        PeaceNikki
        Jun 2016
        #32
      
        
        "The privilege to serve on a Jury ...active Star membership." That's beautiful, man. n/t
        jtuck004
        Jun 2016
        #34
      
        
        I think the Lounge may still accept non-political kooky content. Don't lose hope!
        LonePirate
        Jun 2016
        #120
      
        
        A lot are leaving and going to be leaving too after the treatment they've gotten here by...
        ChisolmTrailDem
        Jun 2016
        #279
      
        
        Overall I say the changes should be good. I'm looking forward to your tweaks too.
        LiberalFighter
        Jun 2016
        #38
      
        
        Don't you think one would be able to determine if they were off base or not
        notadmblnd
        Jun 2016
        #285
      
        
        From what I read there'll no longer be an opportunity for comments when adjudicating offensive posts
        notadmblnd
        Jun 2016
        #408
      
        
        well I feel there will be no benefit from letting people post their judgemental remarks
        notadmblnd
        Jun 2016
        #415
      
        
        You are provided a link to the post when you are asked to perform jury service
        notadmblnd
        Jun 2016
        #406
      
        
        Prior to the required "subscription" model, DUers dis buy stars for other people.
        Miles Archer
        Jun 2016
        #517
      
        
        Yeah, I mean, I'm not a star member, but I'm also not that concerned about serving on juries...
        kjones
        Jun 2016
        #98
      
        
        Good idea - those non-star members who have to face the advertising on this site are still playing
        vkkv
        Jun 2016
        #186
      
        
        Agreed. "Star members who have been members for a year and have at least 100 posts"
        Nye Bevan
        Jun 2016
        #154
      
        
        You managed to get pretty much the opposite of what Skinner was saying. nt
        stevenleser
        Jun 2016
        #115
      
        
        Here's a good example. "I don't agree with Bernie's characterization of his history of support or
        stevenleser
        Jun 2016
        #176
      
        
        Sure, I dont agree with Bernie supporters characterization of the email investigation.
        stevenleser
        Jun 2016
        #348
      
        
        Calling out bad policies, losing strategies, corruption and outright lying has always been permitted
        Renew Deal
        Jun 2016
        #300
      
        
        This change: Alerters and Jurors will no longer receive notifications after Jury service is complete
        vkkv
        Jun 2016
        #71
      
        
        Posts should be able to reference RW pages when demolishing them or posting excerpts as examples.
        Bernardo de La Paz
        Jun 2016
        #183
      
        
        A list might be good. & Skinner posted the rule which shows that RW links OK in the way I suggest.
        Bernardo de La Paz
        Jun 2016
        #245
      
        
        After I posted, Skinner replied to someone else that there won't be a list
        passiveporcupine
        Jun 2016
        #269
      
        
        Does "No divisive group attacks" mean no discussion of Third Way vs. traditional Democrats?
        senz
        Jun 2016
        #82
      
        
        Generally, don't you find that free things and opportunities are less appreciated? Plus,
        vkkv
        Jun 2016
        #97
      
        
        So, what's legitimate criticism versus "bashing" Democratic public figures? All those names deserve
        leveymg
        Jun 2016
        #209
      
        
        Take Rahm Emanuel as an example. I would vote to hide this post on the grounds of "bashing":
        Nye Bevan
        Jun 2016
        #261
      
        
        Agree, those are easy cases.  But, it's the hard cases that are the problem, and
        leveymg
        Jun 2016
        #327
      
        
        "Hard cases" will probably end up with 4-3 jury decisions, one way or the other.
        Nye Bevan
        Jun 2016
        #371
      
        
        The 'first amendment' is only a protection from the government. (As are all the BoR rights.)
        X_Digger
        Jun 2016
        #458
      
        
        Yea, no more holding our own's feet to the fire or calling out authoritarian and right-wing...
        ChisolmTrailDem
        Jun 2016
        #296
      
        
        Does "the portion of the thread relevant to the alerted post" mean all posts in the 'ancestral line'
        muriel_volestrangler
        Jun 2016
        #89
      
        
        Not having folks like you claim everyone they disagree with is a paid Brock shill is worth doubling
        stevenleser
        Jun 2016
        #129
      
        
        This is not the Democratic party this is an owner operated web site.  Don't bash Democrats here
        upaloopa
        Jun 2016
        #138
      
        
        I notice that about 98% of the recs to this announcement are members of the HRC group.
        panader0
        Jun 2016
        #117
      
        
        Don't you have your jack shit or something other web site to keep bashing Hillary?  Go there
        upaloopa
        Jun 2016
        #121
      
        
        I don't think insulting posts like yours will be allowed under the new rules.
        panader0
        Jun 2016
        #126
      
        
        a lot of people will have to learn the relevant differences between criticism and name-calling
        LanternWaste
        Jun 2016
        #208
      
        
        As near as I can tell, it's a website that exists for the sole purpose of taking pot-shots ...
        NurseJackie
        Jun 2016
        #366
      
        
        That's not a site that I visit. If you see someone touting it or encouraging defection ...
        NurseJackie
        Jun 2016
        #405
      
        
        The objections to the civility rules from one corner is evidence enough. nt
        stevenleser
        Jun 2016
        #225
      
        
        The objections to the new civility rules from one corner is evidence enough. nt
        stevenleser
        Jun 2016
        #307
      
        
        Bear in mind Newsmax, where you appear isn't going to be on the approved sources last...
        truebrit71
        Jun 2016
        #361
      
        
        Sure it will as it will when I appear on Fox. You are twisting Skinners rules
        stevenleser
        Jun 2016
        #367
      
        
        Good to see. How about not letting people use Polls to create an "enemies list".
        mackdaddy
        Jun 2016
        #119
      
        
        long overdue.  the rules system worked very well, the jury system has proven quite flawed
        unblock
        Jun 2016
        #123
      
        
        With the new rules, let them, they will lose their juror privileges. I may empty my blacklist
        stevenleser
        Jun 2016
        #360
      
        
        With the move to GE standing, will Admin permit User Name changes now or after November? . . .
        Journeyman
        Jun 2016
        #141
      
        
        Q: where is the list of prohibited right-wing publications, authors, or pundits?
        john978
        Jun 2016
        #145
      
        
        I agree with your analysis - seems DU wants to be the definition of establishment. nt
        john978
        Jun 2016
        #301
      
        
        Joe Lieberman did become an "Independent" and was elected Senator running against a Democrat. n/t
        PoliticAverse
        Jun 2016
        #191
      
        
        It seems from your posts in this thread that you have issues with the new rules, and that is fine,
        still_one
        Jun 2016
        #353
      
        
        Skinner, what about locks aquired during the primary process, will they reset back to 0?
        Logical
        Jun 2016
        #156
      
        
        I hope that is it, the trouble makers will get 5 soon enough. Thanks for all you do! Nt
        Logical
        Jun 2016
        #201
      
        
        I am sorry if someone asked and I missed it but are you implimenting the 5 hide rule like
        hrmjustin
        Jun 2016
        #158
      
        
        So, when do we get the GD-General election forum opened???   I'm ready to bash some trump!
        Amimnoch
        Jun 2016
        #160
      
        
        I agree with everything, except for "Alerters and Jurors will no longer receive notifications after
        lunamagica
        Jun 2016
        #184
      
        
        I'll miss serving on juries, but the changes look good -- I have no beef with them. Thanks! . . nt
        Bernardo de La Paz
        Jun 2016
        #189
      
        
        So nobody can call me a Republican Troll or an uneducated voter again :-)
        redstatebluegirl
        Jun 2016
        #219
      
        
        We believe that these rules do not disallow any good-faith discussion of issues.
        Skinner
        Jun 2016
        #228
      
        
        Skinner- A possible suggestion for future consideration on the "jury results" issue.
        TygrBright
        Jun 2016
        #253
      
        
        Yet you will change nothing on DI? Where homophobia/etc stands (against TOS), anyone can serve, etc?
        The Straight Story
        Jun 2016
        #254
      
        
        "registered for at least one year - more than 1,000 posts - active Star membership" -- 2 out of 3 ?
        eppur_se_muova
        Jun 2016
        #257
      
        
        BtA, I have to say I agree with much of your post.  Especially the part about transparency and
        seaglass
        Jun 2016
        #344
      
        
        In an ideal world, alerts regarding bigotry would be sent to jurors from the group in question.
        stevenleser
        Jun 2016
        #416
      
        
        Enhhh... There've been times when I accepted a jury invite when browsing on my phone ...
        NurseJackie
        Jun 2016
        #369
      
        
        I'll admit there have been a few when I had to go look at the thread to get context.
        Algernon Moncrieff
        Jun 2016
        #451
      
        
        Curious as to why, rather than instuting these rules earlier, you opted for a free for all
        cui bono
        Jun 2016
        #338
      
        
        I know some of you Sanders supporters believe this, I just can't see how you can delude yourself
        stevenleser
        Jun 2016
        #343
      
        
        If that were true, then all the more reason to enact the rules earlier so as not to show bias.
        cui bono
        Jun 2016
        #420
      
        
        Keep pretending you didn't control the juries and the overall tenor on DU.
        stevenleser
        Jun 2016
        #421
      
        
        I forgot to mention what you did. Posted one of the two most vile OPs in DU history.
        cui bono
        Jun 2016
        #465
      
        
        So? Another DUer who is a PoC posted a racist's rant and an anti-semitic post.
        cui bono
        Jun 2016
        #494
      
        
        1. We all know that's against the rules. 2. I'm no longer a star member so search is useless.
        cui bono
        Jun 2016
        #505
      
        
        I'm so glad you raised all of this nonsense. I've been waiting for the opportunity.
        stevenleser
        Jun 2016
        #514
      
        
        "The worst offenders were Sanders supporters?" I just can't see how you can delude yourself.
        Miles Archer
        Jun 2016
        #518
      
        
        The Hill does lean right but I find their reporting on factual issues to be rather reliable.
        PoliticAverse
        Jun 2016
        #403
      
        
        Are all the current hides going to be erased and everyone starts with a clean slate or is everyone..
        ChisolmTrailDem
        Jun 2016
        #370
      
        
        So many of these are great but I hope you're not opening up a massive can of worms with this one
        Number23
        Jun 2016
        #385
      
        
        The work that you three must have put into these changes is appreciated, but ...
        countryjake
        Jun 2016
        #418
      
        
        I am excited Administration. I can do this and the opportunity it is giving to DU.  Very exciting.
        seabeyond
        Jun 2016
        #461
      
        
        I won't be able to serve on a jury until 2 days after the general election...
        Silver_Witch
        Jun 2016
        #462
      
        
        Very comprehensive. I look forward to implementation; jurying should be interesting.
        Hekate
        Jun 2016
        #469
      
        
        Probably because every bit of transparency has been abused and provided much more drama
        stevenleser
        Jun 2016
        #491
      
        
        Pfffft.  If by "Echo Chamber" you mean people who hate Democrats are going to be checked, bring on
        MADem
        Jun 2016
        #503
      
        
        I'm pretty sure they meant the right wing of the Democratic Party fawning over a center-corporatist
        cui bono
        Jun 2016
        #506
      
        
        Whoa, so this place is becoming a full blown and super loyalist to the Democratic party type site.
        One Black Sheep
        Jun 2016
        #508
      
        
        Skinner, would you consider leaving the notifications of jury results?
        AgadorSparticus
        Jun 2016
        #509
      
        
        Suggestion about members with many hides: set those at 5 or more back to 3 or 4
        muriel_volestrangler
        Jun 2016
        #510