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In reply to the discussion: William Rivers Pitt: Coward-in-Chief: Trump Wilts in the Face of Fascist Terrorism [View all]BainsBane
(56,840 posts)Of course he does. He and every other person who voted for Trump or anyone else of course is within their rights to vote exactly as they please. This isn't a clinic on voter rights. It's about CHOICES. Do people stand up against evil--against fascism--or do they abet it.
Pitt and the rest of the Vichy collaboration did not simply stop at voting against Clinton. Pitt used his position at Truthout to argue against the election of Clinton in the general election. They spread every bit of Kremlin and GOP propaganda to ensure her defeat to Trump. They made it their fucking mission in life, and they succeeded. They got exactly what they wanted. This is their victory, the America they created, and they own every last life lost as a result.
Support for Democrats does not make DU suck. It is a requirement for membership of this site. This is not a site where Stein/Trump/Nazi party voters are welcomed equally along with Democrats. The name DEMOCRATIC, as in the party, is in the fucking title of the site.
What sucks is fascism. What sucks is cowards who not only refused to stand up to fascism but now cry victim because people like me don't put their fragile egos over the lives of those lost and jeopardized by the regime they worked to put into power.
The choice in 2016 could not have been clearer. It was obvious Trump was racist, ultra-reactionary, and fascist. Any vote against Clinton was a vote for him. That's how it works in America. Bernie was a candidate in the primary, not the GE. He told his supporters to vote for Clinton, but they refused and used him as an excuse, as cowards do. They had their own reasons for their hatred of the Democratic Party AND most importantly the Democratic voters they chose to punish through their votes, writing, arguments, and campaigning against Clinton. Hillary Clinton as an individual was the least of the issues on that ballot. Her candidacy was the only thing standing in the way of America's descent into fascism. Rather that standing up to that fascist assault, they chose to abet it.
The excuse that those votes didn't matter is the refuge of cowards. If their votes didn't matter, why did they work so hard to convince others not to vote for Clinton? If Clinton won his state, it was against his best efforts, since everything he said and did was directed toward ensuring she lost. In Michigan she lost by two voters per precinct. Are you going to claim that all of the constant posts at sites like JPR, on Twitter, on Truthout and all of social media had absolutely no bearing on those votes? That's bullshit. People don't get to devote their every breath for years on end to defeating the Democratic nominee and then claim their votes didn't matter because their entire state wasn't taken in by their LIES and Kremlin propaganda.
If you ever looked at history and thought, why didn't people stop Hitler, you need look no further. This is exactly why. Because too many refused to stand up against fascism. They put their petty animosities and egos first. The lives of those imperiled by fascists were less consequential to them compared to their bruised egos and/or anger at those same populations for refusing to defer to the white male bourgeois entitlement, the kind of entitlement that takes more offense at outrage to fascism and those who refused to stand up to it than in the violence we are witnessing around America at the hands of White Supremacists.
Your version of decency is indecent. It is refusing to stand up to evil, and then placing the egos of those who refused to stand up to that evil above its victims.
The truly repulsive thing about these defenses of so-called "progressive" Trump/Stein/ratfuck voters is that it shows a complete refusal to learn from past mistakes. It shows that they continue to put their egos over the lives of their fellow citizens, which is exactly how we got in this situation in the first place. And by refusing to acknowledge any error or responsibility and demanding that we all put their feelings first, it shows they have every intention of continuing to demand that the less privileged, affluent members of the public put them and their narcissism over their own lives. Obscene doesn't begin to describe the moral bankruptcy that such a posture reveals.
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