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Tom Rinaldo

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49. I am reminded of the old proverb

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 01:48 PM

Apr 2017

"You can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink."

There are lots of young people out there thirsty for social change, many without a clear sense of where and how to best find it, but they are out there searching - to their credit. For various reasons (some more fair than others) the Democratic Party hasn't always topped their list of where to look. Bernie led hem to our party, not the Greens, and said this is a good place to look. It is now the job of us Democrats to say to them you are welcome to drink here, we think it will suit your taste.

We don't have to of course, but that's like saying we don't have to win elections.

But the truth is it is happening, your experience, my experience, MuseRider's experience above, individual anecdotes about local Democratic Parties adding up to a very hopeful big picture.

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I Support Bernie Sanders Remaining an Independent [View all] Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 OP

Thank you for your thoughtful analysis! PatsFan87 Apr 2017 #1

I support Bernie. I've been both a Democrat and an unaffiliated voter, now back to a RKP5637 Apr 2017 #2

Great post. Recommended. panader0 Apr 2017 #3

I hoped... Mike Nelson Apr 2017 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author ymetca Apr 2017 #5

Thanks for presenting ideas I had not thought of before, pangaia Apr 2017 #6

That is up to Bernie, but what I do have issues with is his demeaning rhetoric about the still_one Apr 2017 #7

I shouldn't, but I'll bite ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #10

I am Not baiting anyone. I am referring to his speech a few weeks ago where he said trump supporter still_one Apr 2017 #14

It sounds like he didn't say anything at all like you claimed he said ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #17

Here is one link, I am not at a convenient place to respond right now still_one Apr 2017 #19

there is nothing in that link that is anything like what you said ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #24

Actually he said something worse! delisen Apr 2017 #28

so you agree that Sanders was slandered and that still_one ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #29

Not at all. I just find the Bernie Resurrection threads amusing diversions. delisen Apr 2017 #38

Well said UT_democrat Apr 2017 #8

Agreed. Bernie is zentrum Apr 2017 #9

This is a great post. aquamarina Apr 2017 #11

K/R..... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #12

I'm a lifelong Democrat, yellerdawg, and registered. ananda Apr 2017 #13

Dad would be 104 now and always safeinOhio Apr 2017 #21

K and R Quixote1818 Apr 2017 #15

+1000 Eom Arazi Apr 2017 #16

The Dem party is like a huge, lumbering, big-tent cruise ship. Bernie is a like a little tugboat ... earthshine Apr 2017 #18

I like your analogy /t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #37

Ditto the analogy. KPN Apr 2017 #46

Great analysis and thoughts for everyone! h2ebits Apr 2017 #20

K & R FailureToCommunicate Apr 2017 #22

Excellent post Tom and thank you. MuseRider Apr 2017 #23

Thank you. I really like your obserations on how Bernie's campaign changed your local party Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #34

Thank you MuseRider Apr 2017 #36

Reports like yours from Kansas are really valuable food for thought Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #43

I have long been out of the party MuseRider Apr 2017 #50

I think Bernie is part of a much bigger change in attitude. HopeAgain Apr 2017 #25

"I don't agree to a breakup of the two party system, but I do listen..." Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #40

I do not support Sanders running as an independent Gothmog Apr 2017 #26

Wait. Other times you've objected to Bernie running as a Democrat. KPN Apr 2017 #45

Look, sanity! lies Apr 2017 #27

I don't have a problem with his status, either. randome Apr 2017 #30

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! for the huge breath of SANITY. It is soooo appreciated. BigBearJohn Apr 2017 #31

Independents are a varied group. I think Sanders outreach is narrow. delisen Apr 2017 #32

A softening of support for Dems among younger voters would be a more far reaching problem Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #33

Who's saying anything about "an outreach aimed primarily at that group"? KPN Apr 2017 #47

Very well thought out. Exilednight Apr 2017 #35

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #39

Bernie can stay how ever the f he wants too madokie Apr 2017 #41

I've no problem with him being independent. I do have problem with his thoughtless bashing of dems. Justice Apr 2017 #42

Excellent post TR! KPN Apr 2017 #44

I am reminded of the old proverb Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #49

A thoughtful and we'll reasoned post about Bernie? progressoid Apr 2017 #48

K&R! nt riderinthestorm Apr 2017 #51

K&R SalviaBlue Apr 2017 #52

Thank you, Tom. mac56 Apr 2017 #53

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