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55. I can certainly understand your concern that DWS might have to go now

Fri May 20, 2016, 09:14 PM

May 2016

Considering that in spite of the fact she is supposed to be neutral in the candidates races, and has made it obvious she is helping Hillary and Holding Back Sanders any way she can. Of course this would be a bad time for her to go (for you, a Hillary supporter). Yes, I can see it from your perspective.

But for the rest of us...what did you call us?...Anti-Democratic-Party Left?...well, we would like to see someone in her place that will actually be neutral and not favor any one candidate. Because even though you think we are anti-democratic, we'd like to see a fair and impartial democratic process used from now on. Which is something we will not be getting from Debbie.

It was time to start devouring our own asses (hey, your term, not mine) from the day Debbie starting fighting for her old pal Hillary to win.

The DNC will get along just fine without her...hell, it might even do a lot better, if there weren't so many sneaky party shenanigans going on. Maybe some of that money that is supposed to go down ticket instead of to Hillary, might actually go down ticket and help us turn congress blue again.

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Bill Moyers: Democrats Can't Unite Until DWS Goes [View all] The Blue Flower May 2016 OP

This surely would go a long way , I would hope, in mending the fence. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #1

And me, Kelvin Mace May 2016 #30

Politics as usual. Just as this election is with two big exceptions, Bernie and Drumpf Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #32

Totally agree...great post ! libdem4life May 2016 #69

But but what about BoB???? Katashi_itto May 2016 #113

SO what happens when Clinton gives her a job in a Clinton Administration? Ferd Berfel May 2016 #129

If Sanders would except that he has lost: and stop blaming DWS lewebley3 May 2016 #138

If Sanders would except that he has lost: and stop blaming DWS.... AlbertCat May 2016 #145

This is true oldandhappy May 2016 #2

Not true: DWS is not the cause of Sanders losses: Sanders people are bullies lewebley3 May 2016 #139

Sanders people are bullies AlbertCat May 2016 #146

oh? Phlem May 2016 #151

+ 1 Scientific May 2016 #3

^^This^^ zentrum May 2016 #13

And she should take truedelphi May 2016 #4

She should go, but it isn't about DWS dreamnightwind May 2016 #5

Oh FFS Proud Liberal Dem May 2016 #75

Half of Hillary's people don't like DWS either runaway hero May 2016 #80

Sander people won't stop bulliing: they have lost and the want to blame DWS lewebley3 May 2016 #140

No way. runaway hero May 2016 #141

It started in 2008. bvar22 May 2016 #143

Gross runaway hero May 2016 #158

She and Hillary are pals dflprincess May 2016 #164

So you like DWS and think she is good for unity? Silver_Witch May 2016 #84

I don't know a whole lot about DWS to know whether I "like" her or not Proud Liberal Dem May 2016 #166

Wait. Do you think Sanders should run as a third party candidate? Gore1FL May 2016 #86

No different from the throng of Sanders supporters... Orrex May 2016 #137

You think he should run third party too, then? Gore1FL May 2016 #161

No, I don't think that, because that would be stupid. Orrex May 2016 #163

No Proud Liberal Dem May 2016 #165

Thank you, voice of sanity, Bill Moyers! Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #6

She's fucking up a slam-dunk. Iggo May 2016 #7

Well I don't think she was ever a Democrat in spirit. Just someone who could do things and it did no LiberalArkie May 2016 #14

Rec & Kick. MerryBlooms May 2016 #8

That was it for me too! eom LittleGirl May 2016 #103

I appreciate Moyers, but WTF? Hortensis May 2016 #9

Lol! KPN May 2016 #15

Nonsense. 41.5% of your wishful "44%" have no idea Hortensis May 2016 #18

So True! demosincebirth May 2016 #35

Now be honest and admit that all of your percentages are just estimates. A Simple Game May 2016 #54

That 44% is KPN's and I believe it is way overblown, Hortensis May 2016 #92

Wow, so much information, thanks. A Simple Game May 2016 #120

Your statistic is misleading. The average person gets more than 3 minutes of news. Exilednight May 2016 #64

AVERAGE, perhaps, "more than" 3 minutes. But why? Hortensis May 2016 #91

you base this on the assumption that people only get their news from TV. Exilednight May 2016 #118

Now you are just making up crap Hortie KPN May 2016 #159

So when is the right time? Ned Flanders May 2016 #19

NO. Get your head together. Hortensis May 2016 #20

Too late Android3.14 May 2016 #49

I can certainly understand your concern that DWS might have to go now passiveporcupine May 2016 #55

The DNC is helping HUNDREDS of democratic candidates Hortensis May 2016 #108

he has become a Bernie Swooner Skittles May 2016 #59

Where have you been? The Party is split wide open. The Progressives are sick and tired rhett o rick May 2016 #67

Hear, hear! And don't forget Henry Kissinger and Robert (PNAC) Kagan! Peace Patriot May 2016 #88

That's Henry FUCKING Kissinger Paulie May 2016 #135

Devouring our own asses? She allied herself with sheldon adelson to jail medical marijuana patients. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #94

She has failed miserably at electing Dems ybbor May 2016 #105

I can't begin o assess her competence in this weird Hortensis May 2016 #109

She is divisive, dishonest and corrupt as Hell. cali May 2016 #107

Why Is DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz Co-Sponsoring a Bill to Help Predatory Payday Lenders? AntiBank May 2016 #116

You sound like the NRA after a school shooting, "Now is not Dustlawyer May 2016 #127

We are in the middle of national campaigns for who Hortensis May 2016 #131

We will have to disagree because I feel the same about you. Dustlawyer May 2016 #133

For a moment, ignore the reasons in OP. HooptieWagon May 2016 #10

+1 joeybee12 May 2016 #22

+2 runaway hero May 2016 #81

Moyers is Great. zentrum May 2016 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Colors May 2016 #23

Even worse. zentrum May 2016 #33

she said it awhile ago following the early primaries when voters began asking hopemountain May 2016 #82

She said it a few months ago during THIS primary. Seems recent to me. nt stillwaiting May 2016 #124

I think DWS will resign if she believes that's the only way underthematrix May 2016 #12

She'll resign when she sees the handwriting on the wall. Then and only then. KPN May 2016 #16

Call it what you need to call it as long as she does what she needs underthematrix May 2016 #17

Your response confuses me a bit. Maybe I misunderstood. KPN May 2016 #130

cognitive dissonance or willfull ignorance? Ned Flanders May 2016 #26

This big picture. You're talking about underthematrix May 2016 #89

She is not party loyal, she is conservative and corporate loyal. bjobotts May 2016 #45

Party loyal??!! Ha Haaa KelleyKramer May 2016 #61

She's not 'party loyal'. She's DWS-HRC-WJC, Inc. loyal GoneOffShore May 2016 #66

Not really...even if she goes, joeybee12 May 2016 #21

He did have only 25 years in Congress to Hortensis May 2016 #110

can you imagine her as Press Secretary in a Clinton administration? tomm2thumbs May 2016 #24

Debbie was appointed DNC chair by Obama Geronimoe May 2016 #25

So now she hired her? joeybee12 May 2016 #27

She was Hillary 2008 campaign co-chairman Geronimoe May 2016 #36

YES!!! grasswire May 2016 #28

FIRE DWS! Donate to Democratic Underground for Tim Canova FL-23 here Omaha Steve May 2016 #29

She'll go. Probably DWS will most likely be rewarded with a cabinet position by HRC. EndElectoral May 2016 #31

I lost whatever respect I may have had for dws many years ago... mahannah May 2016 #34

Secret kill list? Obama has a secret kill list? You look like an idiot. Why post stupid crap bjobotts May 2016 #47

About that looking like an idiot thing... frylock May 2016 #51

If the real estate swindler is crowned king she may not have to go - may be irrelevant. n/t jtuck004 May 2016 #37

That would be a good start. LS_Editor May 2016 #38

Understatement. nt silvershadow May 2016 #39

The enemy from within. ReRe May 2016 #40

IF she "brings down her gavel on progressive hopes of returning the party to its legacy PatrickforO May 2016 #41

Hillary isn't going to gut the New Deal creeksneakers2 May 2016 #72

What a sad divisive man scscholar May 2016 #42

The party is split between the neoliberal Third Ways and the New Dealers. I don't think PatrickforO May 2016 #43

He's a journalist, not a propagandist for your Party. frylock May 2016 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #53

I was talking about this article, not history! scscholar May 2016 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #57

And the long silence continues . . . hatrack May 2016 #157

You have no idea who you're talking about, do you? dflprincess May 2016 #68

Probably not but I heard it pays per post Person 2713 May 2016 #78

Do you have any idea who Bill Moyers is? Fuddnik May 2016 #74

I wasn't talking about then. I'm talking about now! (ntxt) scscholar May 2016 #87

Shooting the messenger much? 99th_Monkey May 2016 #144

Bill Moyers? been speaking truth for a long time .....and that irks some . Nothing new . Person 2713 May 2016 #76

That did it. Welcome to Ignore. Hiraeth May 2016 #77

Bill Moyers? Press secretary to Pres. Lyndon Johnson? JHB May 2016 #85

Are you kidding me? Blue_In_AK May 2016 #90

If debbie wasserman schultz is the party, that means the party supports predatory lending. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #95

Yes. Very. ucrdem May 2016 #98

Bill Moyers Is Wise colsohlibgal May 2016 #44

Debbie is republican-lite Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #46

I think she should just change parties kevink077 May 2016 #48

We will unite with Bernie - TBF May 2016 #50

Moyers got it right again. Hard for Hillaryites to throw him under the Wall Street bus. imagine2015 May 2016 #58

Wishfull thinking Egnever May 2016 #60

Obama considered replacing her in 2013 antigop May 2016 #62

Recommend for Exposure! KoKo May 2016 #153

and she was confident no one could get her out before her term was over -- 2017. antigop May 2016 #154

It would be a good start, but the Democratic Party has a long road back to being the party of labor Not Sure May 2016 #63

Anyone who thinks that will unite this party has no clue about what is going on. Skwmom May 2016 #65

It sure wouldnt hurt. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #93

Her lack of leadership...the losses...the fawning over HRC...the predatory libdem4life May 2016 #70

11 Governors, 13 Senators, 69 Reps, 913 state seats: there's only one seat left for her to lose! MisterP May 2016 #71

I'm surprised he isn't talking about a more meaningful concession creeksneakers2 May 2016 #73

How about descheduling marijuana entirely at the federal level, instead of a token change from I/II Warren DeMontague May 2016 #96

HRC might split the difference on min wage. From 12 to 10. nt stillwaiting May 2016 #125

After all the cheating, lying, and smugness, we won't unite emsimon33 May 2016 #79

i'm a proud grass roots activist and was hopemountain May 2016 #83

Haven't trusted that one in decades. nt ucrdem May 2016 #97

Today I learned that Bill Moyers is "a sad divisive man" and "that one". pa28 May 2016 #99

And Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a hero. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #101

Yep! Me too. myrna minx May 2016 #115

If ANYBODY had failed as badly at their job DonCoquixote May 2016 #100

Debbie will not be offered up. The Administration is behind her. LuvLoogie May 2016 #102

:) A poet focused on target. Impressive! Hortensis May 2016 #112

Bill Moyers speaks for me. Vote2016 May 2016 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author Turbineguy May 2016 #106

Looks like the DNC is now emulating James O'Keefe, releasing clips edited to make djean111 May 2016 #111

I can't wait to squeeze them into little sheriff meatballs... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #114

Kicked, recommended and I'm sure that if Hillary does become President she will have a cushy job Uncle Joe May 2016 #117

The average voter couldn't care less about DWS treestar May 2016 #119

You don't need to know FlaGranny May 2016 #126

DWS has become a scapegoat treestar May 2016 #142

Agreed. n/t Different Drummer May 2016 #156

K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast May 2016 #121

Where's Howard Dean when you need him? HelenWheels May 2016 #122

K & R mountain grammy May 2016 #123

A big A** Kick! nt Stellar May 2016 #128

Moyers Campbell Power of myth Protalker May 2016 #132

If resignations make the party battle ready for November, go for it! bucolic_frolic May 2016 #134

she has got to go. yuiyoshida May 2016 #136

Even if she did go it would be a symbolic gesture at best. sibelian May 2016 #147

Right. DWS isn't the problem, she's a RESULT of a deeper problem! ReallyIAmAnOptimist May 2016 #150

DWS needs to go, but that won't make all the wrongs of the past four months right. reformist2 May 2016 #148

Would you have voted for G.W. Bush in 2004 just because he fired Karl Rove? Califonz May 2016 #149

yeah I don't know about this. Phlem May 2016 #152

Losing to Tim Canova won't dis-throne her from DNC Equinox Moon May 2016 #155

She would be covenient sacrifice PATRICK May 2016 #160

Its not about who needs to go quakerboy May 2016 #162