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113. bullshit. Lewinsky initiated the relationship. There are no inherent issues for consent.

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Monica Lewinsky is trending on Twitter. She is a brave young woman. [View all] Merryland Apr 2016 OP

Hillary worked feverishly to Destroy her FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #1

??????? Zynx Apr 2016 #2

And for the life of me, I can't imagine why ... dawg Apr 2016 #3

Did Bill Clinton ever apologize to Lewinsky? Merryland Apr 2016 #4

Absolutely NOT FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #9

Did a Clinton ever apologize for anything he or she did? JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #43

Yes he did. beastie boy Apr 2016 #70

Apologize for what? Having a willy? Getting a little sexual activity from underahedgerow Apr 2016 #71

A lot of people TeddyR Apr 2016 #85

But it was Bill Clinton. truedelphi Apr 2016 #139

For didling a young subordinate 840high Apr 2016 #102

A decade, and she can't get a job. No one wants her, But Bill and Hill carry on. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #136

She created the situation. She has just as much responsibility for the situation underahedgerow Apr 2016 #168

Hmmm.... So... since he's Bill Clinton... OBenario Apr 2016 #166

Oh come on, like he's the first guy to ever have a diddle at the office? What's the underahedgerow Apr 2016 #214

Totally agree with you Dan Apr 2016 #174

Lewinsky initiated the relationship. Why should Bill apologize to anyone but Hillary? kwassa Apr 2016 #99

The President of the US 840high Apr 2016 #103

gee, are you going to bring up all the unsubstantiated stories again? kwassa Apr 2016 #112

They have been substantiated. Perhaps 840high Apr 2016 #120

No, they haven't. The right wing tried their damndest to do so .... kwassa Apr 2016 #137

I lived through it and even 840high Apr 2016 #186

I can only imagine your forgiving attitude if it truedelphi Apr 2016 #141

what??? Jill Sanders???? kwassa Apr 2016 #149

Your equation is different than mine. truedelphi Apr 2016 #177

Of course they would. Being it's 840high Apr 2016 #193

Six hundred bucks? OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #148

oops - 600 thousand 840high Apr 2016 #163

Did Monica, whose actions deeply hurt Hillary, ever apologize to her? She should have. nt pnwmom Apr 2016 #183

Did Bill? 840high Apr 2016 #187

Hillary said he has. But Monica never has -- she just goes around pretending Hillary wronged HER. pnwmom Apr 2016 #188

The women were called "bimbos" by a 840high Apr 2016 #192

Each case is different and we're talking about Monica, who deliberately hurt Hillary. pnwmom Apr 2016 #196

Why can't you accept that it's 840high Apr 2016 #202

There were two people in that sexual affair. One of them doesn't get a free pass. nt pnwmom Apr 2016 #203

Of course it took 840high Apr 2016 #204

I Know! I Know! Ask Me! Fairgo Apr 2016 #106

I think she owes him an apology. She was culpable. kwassa Apr 2016 #110

No. He was the most powerful man on the earth and he could easily have told his staff CTyankee Apr 2016 #116

Sorry, she was an adult, and initiated the entire thing. kwassa Apr 2016 #117

Bill's libido has always been 840high Apr 2016 #124

Monica initiated the relationship. She is not a victim. kwassa Apr 2016 #130

But he was not powerless to stop her. All he had to say was "No." CTyankee Apr 2016 #128

He should have, but this does not exculpate Monica. kwassa Apr 2016 #133

Yes, I agree she was foolish. But he was irresponsible to his office and the country by CTyankee Apr 2016 #138

Remember when this was the most imporant crisis in American politics? Makes me nostalgic. kwassa Apr 2016 #150

We need to always remember that the republicans have their knives out ready to strike. CTyankee Apr 2016 #162

a power differential that significant means that it was not an equal relationship restorefreedom Apr 2016 #175

Lewinsky is not relieved of responsibility. kwassa Apr 2016 #178

she made a pass at a powerful man she was working for restorefreedom Apr 2016 #179

I disagree with you. kwassa Apr 2016 #180

that is true, she took a big risk restorefreedom Apr 2016 #181

Hillary was wronged by Monica as much as she was wronged by Bill. pnwmom Apr 2016 #199

i didnt blame hillary for the affair. buthe sexist behavior was bills.he had the greater culpability restorefreedom Apr 2016 #210

Monica is the one who is still trying to hurt Hillary, by going for publicity every time Hillary pnwmom Apr 2016 #213

her life has been shit for 20 years thanks to bill restorefreedom Apr 2016 #216

The president is not the most powerful man on earth but he is powerful treestar Apr 2016 #165

He owed it to t he country not to ruin his presidency. She owed it to herself and her CTyankee Apr 2016 #170

+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2016 #217

Poor Bill - he just 840high Apr 2016 #122

Didn't Bill set himself up wheniwasincongress Apr 2016 #164

Her fault - how dare 840high Apr 2016 #194

"Lewinsky initiated the relationship." OBenario Apr 2016 #167

I used to disapprove of Bill's actions; your post makes me despise him. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #212

What would be an appropriate reaction to the wpman Arkansas Granny Apr 2016 #14

Oh, I don't know...maybe assign most of the blame to your middle aged husband and not a DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #27

Please excuse me, while I edit your post... Contrary1 Apr 2016 #51

They are blaming a 22 year old woman? northernsouthern Apr 2016 #140

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ n/t truedelphi Apr 2016 #142

... tk2kewl Apr 2016 #38

doing karl rove's work for him? certainot Apr 2016 #46

I guess the truth about the Clintons is very painful for you to face tk2kewl Apr 2016 #90

your version of truth was something you heard certainot Apr 2016 #98

The whole world knew 840high Apr 2016 #105

Perfect! Divernan Apr 2016 #83

Seriously? Mike fucking Lester? BlueStater Apr 2016 #89

Does the cartoon fit the conversation? tk2kewl Apr 2016 #91

Bingo 840high Apr 2016 #104

Foul temptress. frylock Apr 2016 #40

Yes!! Thirties Child Apr 2016 #108

To appropriate Dorian Gray Apr 2016 #169

Yes, Hillary should totally apologize to the woman her husband was cheating on her with. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #55

The 90s called, they want their right wing smears back. apnu Apr 2016 #172

She did a Ted talk about how scandal follows you especially since the internet Marrah_G Apr 2016 #5

Her TED talk was great tammywammy Apr 2016 #15

Reading this, I don't know why anyone would want to be involved with the Clintons. djean111 Apr 2016 #6

This is how I view Monica and her errors apcalc Apr 2016 #7

Not sure I understand - "her errors"? Merryland Apr 2016 #10

She's not young anymore philosslayer Apr 2016 #8

No she's not. fbc Apr 2016 #50

She's quite beautiful and 840high Apr 2016 #195

Pretty woman. GOLGO 13 Apr 2016 #11

This made me see Ms. Lewinsky in a whole new light: demmiblue Apr 2016 #12

This ain't gonna be good for either Clinton Merryland Apr 2016 #13

Casting a negative light on the Clintons was not my purpose in posting this video. n/t demmiblue Apr 2016 #19

You can't swing a dead cat without casting a negative light on the Clintons. frylock Apr 2016 #41

Of course not. Arkansas Granny Apr 2016 #44

What do you find objectionable about the video? demmiblue Apr 2016 #45

None the less, a negative light was cast. But that is not yr fault. truedelphi Apr 2016 #143

I enjoyed watching that moonbabygo Apr 2016 #20

Because when this happens, we are told that 'Boys will be boys... DookDook Apr 2016 #25

The reason is that the ONLY thing she is known for is her affair with Clinton karynnj Apr 2016 #33

I only mention John Kerry because he's a handsome guy and the first name I thought of. DookDook Apr 2016 #54

However, you could have made the point using Monica and BILL CLINTON karynnj Apr 2016 #87

Bill's not my type, I don't find him attractive. DookDook Apr 2016 #97

I don't know if Bill is forgiven, have to ask Hillary. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #88

Thank you. Ms. Lewinsky gave a powerful talk that certainly made me think differently. n/t NNadir Apr 2016 #69

She's not a young woman. She had an affair with a man she knew was married. Shrike47 Apr 2016 #16

She knew he was married, but... meaculpa2011 Apr 2016 #21

Exactly. If there is anything in this world that is sexist it is jwirr Apr 2016 #22

You don't think both parties share blame? Democat Apr 2016 #64

Lewinsky initiated the relationship, and was an adult at the time. kwassa Apr 2016 #101

Agreed. When I was 5, I knew you weren't supposed to show... 3catwoman3 Apr 2016 #109

and GOP rw radio used her to hamstring the certainot Apr 2016 #49

+1 CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #107

At the end of the day, both Monica and Hillary were victims of Bill's narcissism. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #17

Grown women who engage in consensual relationships are not victims missingthebigdog Apr 2016 #28

I stand by my original post. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #30

I am sure the situational "feminists for Hillary" favor Bill Clinton and blame her mostly. nt m-lekktor Apr 2016 #34

BINGO! We have a winner! BillZBubb Apr 2016 #57

He was in a position of power, she was young enough to be his daughter. m-lekktor Apr 2016 #32

Yep. The power differential was enormous. demmiblue Apr 2016 #36

So all relationships between powerful people missingthebigdog Apr 2016 #37

she was like what, 21 or 22? greymouse Apr 2016 #47

I was married, managing a household and raising a toddler. Arkansas Granny Apr 2016 #123

Oh please.... Loki Apr 2016 #42

That is extremely sexist Democat Apr 2016 #66

The power dynamics was very symmetric indeed... Helen Borg Apr 2016 #39

This is about the worst analysis of what actually happened that I have ever read. kwassa Apr 2016 #115

+1000. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2016 #129

I think that is it in a nutshell. Rex Apr 2016 #134

I think she's a brave, beautiful woman and admire her for polly7 Apr 2016 #18

.that^ 840high Apr 2016 #111

If something positive came out of all that horrible mess, then that is a good thing. Rex Apr 2016 #23

I never expected to hear something good from or about her DonCoquixote Apr 2016 #24

Are the anti-Hillary people *THIS* desperate? Archae Apr 2016 #26

Yes they are this desperate. Monica Lewinsky was not a teenager. She livetohike Apr 2016 #29

Please. Thirties Child Apr 2016 #126

So she forced him into it? polly7 Apr 2016 #35

She paid for her stupid mistake. So did Bill. They were both adults. kwassa Apr 2016 #119

Monica said she almost committed suicide CountAllVotes Apr 2016 #31

did she almost commit suicide because she blew the president? or because the world discovered it? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #48

Obviously the latter fbc Apr 2016 #52

because different people are responsible for different actions La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #53

If Bill had the courage to admit what he had done instead of sending White House cabinet members.... virtualobserver Apr 2016 #59

and she would still have been exposed, and she would still end up suicidal La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #60

if he had admitted it right up front, it wouldn't have gone on and on...... virtualobserver Apr 2016 #62

no way that even you believe that. it would still be a giant sex scandal La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #65

still a scandal, but lying to everyone made it so much worse.....especially under oath. virtualobserver Apr 2016 #74

Bill could have stood up for the woman he had told he loved. Scootaloo Apr 2016 #76

lol. yeah, what i think is a bunch of people are finding fancy ways of blaming a wife for her La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #78

I don't recall blaming Hillary. or even mentioning her. Scootaloo Apr 2016 #80

because they had 1200 radio stations to slut shame her certainot Apr 2016 #56

right, hence it's not the blowjob at all, and not bill clinton's fault La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #58

he was an idiot, but we definitely didn't need to know it certainot Apr 2016 #79

It most certainly was Bubba's fault. Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #189

Who wouldn't? I certainly wouldn't want my La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #221

About some of what you write, I say, "Fine." truedelphi Apr 2016 #145

Maybe she shouldn't have made a choice to have an affair with a married man? Democat Apr 2016 #61

Sometimes? SwankyXomb Apr 2016 #86

Wow, I'm surprised anyone gives a sh** about her.n/t fasttense Apr 2016 #63

no she's not. KG Apr 2016 #67

*SNAP* Annnd we're back in the room. I predicted this exactly ONE week underahedgerow Apr 2016 #68

As a Clinton supporter, I don't have a problem at all with the video. NNadir Apr 2016 #72

my nuanced view of Ms. Lewinsky steve2470 Apr 2016 #73

Email > 1990s WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #75

I love the DU Edition of Free Republic... VOX Apr 2016 #77

At least Henry Hypocrite Hyde is fucking dead now ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2016 #95

Bill should have been shamed and ostracized, just like Monica Dems to Win Apr 2016 #81

Oh, "Obama is very articulate" Dr Jill Stein? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2016 #96

God this thread has a disgusting level of slut-shaming going on ky_dem Apr 2016 #82

Because El BJ and Hillary are democrats. Throd Apr 2016 #92

i dont care about the reasons Bill and Hillary stay together. Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #94

But it wasn't her marriage ky_dem Apr 2016 #114

I'm Monica wants to sleep with bill, thats fine Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #135

there's a difference between 'some fallout' and a witch hunt ky_dem Apr 2016 #144

I don't give a crap what they beleive in Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #152

bullshit. Lewinsky initiated the relationship. There are no inherent issues for consent. kwassa Apr 2016 #113

of course there are ky_dem Apr 2016 #118

We know she initiated the relationship. She said so to Linda Tripp. kwassa Apr 2016 #125

ok - I didn't know that (would appreciate a link) ky_dem Apr 2016 #132

Thank you for providing the viewpoint of a young person Dems to Win Apr 2016 #159

Thank you for your thoughtful response! ky_dem Apr 2016 #220

You sound like a sexist ass IMO, but just my opinion. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #207

I agree, a lot of assholes posting here! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #206

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Apr 2016 #218

It's a bit of a stretch to label this, as some are, an attack on La Clinton. mr blur Apr 2016 #84

Brave? mnhtnbb Apr 2016 #93

Linda Tripp... Lucianne Goldberg.... IcyPeas Apr 2016 #100

Oh, look! She bought a lifetime free pass into the limelight! struggle4progress Apr 2016 #121

Finding the man behind the act Fairgo Apr 2016 #127

His escapades were well 840high Apr 2016 #198

I have to admit, at one time I thought her as a total opportunist. Rex Apr 2016 #131

Right-wing nut jobs continue to bring up their old smears. NYC Liberal Apr 2016 #146

It speaks to the Clintons lack 840high Apr 2016 #200

It speaks to right-wing desperation. NYC Liberal Apr 2016 #209

Don't be a hypocrite - if a 840high Apr 2016 #211

She's aged better than he has. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #147

Yeah, she doesn't wander around voting precincts with a bullhorn ... JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #155

I've always liked that guy. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #157

Isn't she in her 40s? Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #151

... OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #153

Yeah shes terrific MFM008 Apr 2016 #154

ROFLMAO - Not a good idea, she might be "triggered" by entering the White House again! snooper2 Apr 2016 #219

"Later, she emails to explain why she didn’t walk away in the school playground – and why we Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #156

I was raped by a teacher I was told I tried to seduce him because he was a good family man dr60omg Apr 2016 #158

Sorry, I have to draw the line here justiceischeap Apr 2016 #161

.So sorry. 840high Apr 2016 #201

I lived through the Lewinsky scandal and remember thinking at the time (and still thinking) justiceischeap Apr 2016 #160

She is an attention-seeker who hates the woman she competed with. pnwmom Apr 2016 #171

Utter crap. apnu Apr 2016 #173

What a load of misogynist, blame-the-victim crap. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #176

Hillary did NOT victimize her. Hillary was the wife, and both Monica and Bill wronged Hillary. pnwmom Apr 2016 #182

Terrible post, wow, are you terrible. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #208

Linda Tripp's kinda wonderful, too. Mc Mike Apr 2016 #184

Two words Blue Dress Monk06 Apr 2016 #185

Young? Reter Apr 2016 #190

I read this right after reading the thread about how Free Republic is still obsessed. nolabear Apr 2016 #191

Actually, it's a good piece... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #197

So true, and taken advantage by an asshole IMO! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #205

"Young"? You mean she's stuck in a time-warp and is still the horny 21 year old out to get... Hekate Apr 2016 #215