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In reply to the discussion: Monica Lewinsky is trending on Twitter. She is a brave young woman. [View all]IcyPeas
(24,296 posts)100. Linda Tripp... Lucianne Goldberg....
Not to forget, these are the women who set up Monica. Also, Lucianne Goldberg used to post at Free Republic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucianne_Goldberg
The Tripp tapes[edit]
Goldberg met Linda Tripp in 1993 or 1994 while working on the proposal for the book on the death of Clinton aide Vince Foster. The two women became friends, and in 1997 Goldberg advised Tripp to secretly record former White House intern, Monica Lewinsky, talking about her sexual relationship with Bill Clinton. Goldberg mistakenly advised Tripp that it was legal to record phone conversations in Maryland without the consent of the other party.
Goldberg urged Tripp to take the resulting 20 hours of tapes to Special Prosecutor Kenneth Starr who had a broad mandate to investigate improprieties by Clinton. Goldberg also brought the tapes to the attention of lawyers working on the Paula Jones sexual harassment case against Clinton. The tapes became crucial to Starr's investigation on whether Clinton had lied about his affair with Lewinsky. (Ultimately, Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice because he stated in a sworn deposition in the Paula Jones case that he had never had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. He was not removed from office, however.)
Soon after the secret taping began in the fall of 1997, Goldberg arranged for Tripp to speak with Newsweek reporter Michael Isikoff, who had been investigating other allegations about Clinton's sex life. After the scandal became public in January 1998, Goldberg was interviewed frequently by the media. She declared that the tapes proved that Lewinsky and Clinton had had a sexual relationship, and previewed other highlights of the Clinton-Lewinsky affair such as the existence of a semen-stained dress which later proved to have Clinton's DNA.
The Washington Post called her the producer and publicist who set the stage for the scandal and the investigation, she called herself the "facilitator". Of Goldberg's role in the scandal, TIME magazine said; "At a minimum, she is forever sealed in history as the New York City literary agent who uttered to her friend the most ruinous sentence of the Clinton presidency: 'Linda, buy a tape recorder.' " Author Jeffrey Toobin named her as one of the seven "Key Players" in the impeachment.
Goldberg said her actions in helping to disclose the LewinskyClinton affair were motivated by her sense that general morality had declined, and that America needed a wake-up call. She also said that the disclosure of Lewinsky's affair with Clinton helped to protect Lewinsky, who suffered from an obsessive infatuation with Clinton. During this time, Goldberg made no secret of her personal animus toward Clinton, saying she was glad Clinton was getting caught "at something", and that "f it took this to get him, fine." She also said she was a political independent, though she was described in the press as having long standing ties to the Republican Party.
Repercussions
In the aftermath of the disclosures about the ClintonLewinsky affair, Goldberg was subjected to media attacks on her character and past business dealings. The Democratic National Committee faxed an unflattering "information sheet" on Goldberg to reporters within days after the story broke. Goldberg admitted that slurs on her own character were to be expected, '"I have never thought of myself as a victim in all this," she [said]. '"Never. Let them take their best shot."' She later said she had been worn down by the scrutiny.
Goldberg denied allegations made in the media that she was part of a vast right wing conspiracy to bring down the presidency of Bill Clinton. When Jeffrey Toobin published his 1999 book, A Vast Conspiracy, that also alleged Goldberg had told friends that she had an affair with Lyndon Johnson, and a Washington Post writer claimed he and others had overheard Goldberg bragging about an affair with Vice President Hubert Humphrey as well, Goldberg threatened Toobin and Random House with a libel suit, denied both affairs, and denied telling any such stories.
Goldberg was subpoenaed to testify before a Maryland grand jury that was contemplating indicting Tripp for having made the recordings. Under Maryland law, knowledge that such recordings were illegal was a necessary element of the crime. Goldberg explained that she had given Tripp incorrect advice, telling her it was legal to make secret recordings. Charges against Tripp were later dropped.
Liberal filmmaker Michael Moore later set up a webcam focused on the windows of Goldberg's Manhattan apartment, that he called "I See Lucy Cam". Moore's project did not violate New York State's laws. Claiming that Goldberg did not respect the privacy rights of other people, Moore wrote, "`[s]he believes in keeping an eye on persons who are a threat to the country. So do we.'"
Later career[edit]
Goldberg was a prominent presence on the conservative website, Free Republic in the late 1990s, posting under the name "Trixie". She and other conservatives, including Matt Drudge, left the site when the webmaster, in Goldberg's words, "let all the Y2K, gun-nut, Jew-baiting crazies take over [the forum] and flame the plain-old conservatives. She then founded her own website, "Lucianne.com" , and for a time, was a nationally syndicated talk radio host whose show featured a Washington correspondent.
Goldberg met Linda Tripp in 1993 or 1994 while working on the proposal for the book on the death of Clinton aide Vince Foster. The two women became friends, and in 1997 Goldberg advised Tripp to secretly record former White House intern, Monica Lewinsky, talking about her sexual relationship with Bill Clinton. Goldberg mistakenly advised Tripp that it was legal to record phone conversations in Maryland without the consent of the other party.
Goldberg urged Tripp to take the resulting 20 hours of tapes to Special Prosecutor Kenneth Starr who had a broad mandate to investigate improprieties by Clinton. Goldberg also brought the tapes to the attention of lawyers working on the Paula Jones sexual harassment case against Clinton. The tapes became crucial to Starr's investigation on whether Clinton had lied about his affair with Lewinsky. (Ultimately, Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice because he stated in a sworn deposition in the Paula Jones case that he had never had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. He was not removed from office, however.)
Soon after the secret taping began in the fall of 1997, Goldberg arranged for Tripp to speak with Newsweek reporter Michael Isikoff, who had been investigating other allegations about Clinton's sex life. After the scandal became public in January 1998, Goldberg was interviewed frequently by the media. She declared that the tapes proved that Lewinsky and Clinton had had a sexual relationship, and previewed other highlights of the Clinton-Lewinsky affair such as the existence of a semen-stained dress which later proved to have Clinton's DNA.
The Washington Post called her the producer and publicist who set the stage for the scandal and the investigation, she called herself the "facilitator". Of Goldberg's role in the scandal, TIME magazine said; "At a minimum, she is forever sealed in history as the New York City literary agent who uttered to her friend the most ruinous sentence of the Clinton presidency: 'Linda, buy a tape recorder.' " Author Jeffrey Toobin named her as one of the seven "Key Players" in the impeachment.
Goldberg said her actions in helping to disclose the LewinskyClinton affair were motivated by her sense that general morality had declined, and that America needed a wake-up call. She also said that the disclosure of Lewinsky's affair with Clinton helped to protect Lewinsky, who suffered from an obsessive infatuation with Clinton. During this time, Goldberg made no secret of her personal animus toward Clinton, saying she was glad Clinton was getting caught "at something", and that "f it took this to get him, fine." She also said she was a political independent, though she was described in the press as having long standing ties to the Republican Party.
Repercussions
In the aftermath of the disclosures about the ClintonLewinsky affair, Goldberg was subjected to media attacks on her character and past business dealings. The Democratic National Committee faxed an unflattering "information sheet" on Goldberg to reporters within days after the story broke. Goldberg admitted that slurs on her own character were to be expected, '"I have never thought of myself as a victim in all this," she [said]. '"Never. Let them take their best shot."' She later said she had been worn down by the scrutiny.
Goldberg denied allegations made in the media that she was part of a vast right wing conspiracy to bring down the presidency of Bill Clinton. When Jeffrey Toobin published his 1999 book, A Vast Conspiracy, that also alleged Goldberg had told friends that she had an affair with Lyndon Johnson, and a Washington Post writer claimed he and others had overheard Goldberg bragging about an affair with Vice President Hubert Humphrey as well, Goldberg threatened Toobin and Random House with a libel suit, denied both affairs, and denied telling any such stories.
Goldberg was subpoenaed to testify before a Maryland grand jury that was contemplating indicting Tripp for having made the recordings. Under Maryland law, knowledge that such recordings were illegal was a necessary element of the crime. Goldberg explained that she had given Tripp incorrect advice, telling her it was legal to make secret recordings. Charges against Tripp were later dropped.
Liberal filmmaker Michael Moore later set up a webcam focused on the windows of Goldberg's Manhattan apartment, that he called "I See Lucy Cam". Moore's project did not violate New York State's laws. Claiming that Goldberg did not respect the privacy rights of other people, Moore wrote, "`[s]he believes in keeping an eye on persons who are a threat to the country. So do we.'"
Later career[edit]
Goldberg was a prominent presence on the conservative website, Free Republic in the late 1990s, posting under the name "Trixie". She and other conservatives, including Matt Drudge, left the site when the webmaster, in Goldberg's words, "let all the Y2K, gun-nut, Jew-baiting crazies take over [the forum] and flame the plain-old conservatives. She then founded her own website, "Lucianne.com" , and for a time, was a nationally syndicated talk radio host whose show featured a Washington correspondent.
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Monica Lewinsky is trending on Twitter. She is a brave young woman. [View all]
Merryland
Apr 2016
OP
Apologize for what? Having a willy? Getting a little sexual activity from
underahedgerow
Apr 2016
#71
A decade, and she can't get a job. No one wants her, But Bill and Hill carry on.
ViseGrip
Apr 2016
#136
She created the situation. She has just as much responsibility for the situation
underahedgerow
Apr 2016
#168
Oh come on, like he's the first guy to ever have a diddle at the office? What's the
underahedgerow
Apr 2016
#214
Lewinsky initiated the relationship. Why should Bill apologize to anyone but Hillary?
kwassa
Apr 2016
#99
Did Monica, whose actions deeply hurt Hillary, ever apologize to her? She should have. nt
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#183
Hillary said he has. But Monica never has -- she just goes around pretending Hillary wronged HER.
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#188
Each case is different and we're talking about Monica, who deliberately hurt Hillary.
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#196
There were two people in that sexual affair. One of them doesn't get a free pass. nt
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#203
No. He was the most powerful man on the earth and he could easily have told his staff
CTyankee
Apr 2016
#116
Yes, I agree she was foolish. But he was irresponsible to his office and the country by
CTyankee
Apr 2016
#138
Remember when this was the most imporant crisis in American politics? Makes me nostalgic.
kwassa
Apr 2016
#150
We need to always remember that the republicans have their knives out ready to strike.
CTyankee
Apr 2016
#162
a power differential that significant means that it was not an equal relationship
restorefreedom
Apr 2016
#175
i didnt blame hillary for the affair. buthe sexist behavior was bills.he had the greater culpability
restorefreedom
Apr 2016
#210
Monica is the one who is still trying to hurt Hillary, by going for publicity every time Hillary
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#213
He owed it to t he country not to ruin his presidency. She owed it to herself and her
CTyankee
Apr 2016
#170
I used to disapprove of Bill's actions; your post makes me despise him.
Nuclear Unicorn
Apr 2016
#212
Oh, I don't know...maybe assign most of the blame to your middle aged husband and not a
DisgustipatedinCA
Apr 2016
#27
Yes, Hillary should totally apologize to the woman her husband was cheating on her with.
Gomez163
Apr 2016
#55
Reading this, I don't know why anyone would want to be involved with the Clintons.
djean111
Apr 2016
#6
Casting a negative light on the Clintons was not my purpose in posting this video. n/t
demmiblue
Apr 2016
#19
I only mention John Kerry because he's a handsome guy and the first name I thought of.
DookDook
Apr 2016
#54
Thank you. Ms. Lewinsky gave a powerful talk that certainly made me think differently. n/t
NNadir
Apr 2016
#69
At the end of the day, both Monica and Hillary were victims of Bill's narcissism.
ScreamingMeemie
Apr 2016
#17
I am sure the situational "feminists for Hillary" favor Bill Clinton and blame her mostly. nt
m-lekktor
Apr 2016
#34
This is about the worst analysis of what actually happened that I have ever read.
kwassa
Apr 2016
#115
If something positive came out of all that horrible mess, then that is a good thing.
Rex
Apr 2016
#23
did she almost commit suicide because she blew the president? or because the world discovered it?
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#48
If Bill had the courage to admit what he had done instead of sending White House cabinet members....
virtualobserver
Apr 2016
#59
and she would still have been exposed, and she would still end up suicidal
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#60
if he had admitted it right up front, it wouldn't have gone on and on......
virtualobserver
Apr 2016
#62
no way that even you believe that. it would still be a giant sex scandal
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#65
still a scandal, but lying to everyone made it so much worse.....especially under oath.
virtualobserver
Apr 2016
#74
lol. yeah, what i think is a bunch of people are finding fancy ways of blaming a wife for her
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#78
right, hence it's not the blowjob at all, and not bill clinton's fault
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2016
#58
bullshit. Lewinsky initiated the relationship. There are no inherent issues for consent.
kwassa
Apr 2016
#113
Yeah, she doesn't wander around voting precincts with a bullhorn ...
JustABozoOnThisBus
Apr 2016
#155
ROFLMAO - Not a good idea, she might be "triggered" by entering the White House again!
snooper2
Apr 2016
#219
"Later, she emails to explain why she didn’t walk away in the school playground – and why we
Dont call me Shirley
Apr 2016
#156
I was raped by a teacher I was told I tried to seduce him because he was a good family man
dr60omg
Apr 2016
#158
I lived through the Lewinsky scandal and remember thinking at the time (and still thinking)
justiceischeap
Apr 2016
#160
Hillary did NOT victimize her. Hillary was the wife, and both Monica and Bill wronged Hillary.
pnwmom
Apr 2016
#182
I read this right after reading the thread about how Free Republic is still obsessed.
nolabear
Apr 2016
#191