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108. This goes beyond that.

Fri Aug 7, 2015, 02:32 AM

Aug 2015

He's not acting here as just a senior senator from NY. He's the next leader of the Democrats in the senate. That's where the conflict is on this vote. This is a major issue for the Democratic party. It's about stabilization in the ME, and thus less wars. It's a major move toward peace and less conflict. Schumer is opposing this historic move.

Schumer is coming out on the side of the Republicans on this one, which bodes very poorly for him as our future senate leader. Is he for more conflict in the ME, or is he for peace? That's the question here.

If he can't step up to the plate and support the party on such a major issue as this, is he the right person for our next senate leader? I say no, he's not. We do not need a party leader who is for more conflict in the ME. The Republicans already own that stance.

That's the real issue here.

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Chuck Schumer to announce his betrayal of President, party and country tomorrow [View all] geek tragedy Aug 2015 OP

I will wait until tomorrow, and if he does as you say I will join you, not in his betrayal of Obama, still_one Aug 2015 #1

It's official geek tragedy Aug 2015 #25

I just saw it, and it is appropriate that the king of rags should print it, along with how "Schumer" still_one Aug 2015 #43

He has betrayed our country, his party, and his Presiden cally Aug 2015 #2

One can oppose foreign policy here. It isn't treason. WinkyDink Aug 2015 #13

He had two motivations for his vote geek tragedy Aug 2015 #27

This Lil Missy Aug 2015 #52

Jesus H Christ 6chars Aug 2015 #126

Did you really expect anything else from Schumer? MicaelS Aug 2015 #3

I've been guarenteeing that he would choose Netanyahu over Obama geek tragedy Aug 2015 #5

Yes he has to Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #78

Well said. russspeakeasy Aug 2015 #9

+1 GitRDun Aug 2015 #15

He's like an Israeli spy in the senate Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #72

then he and his family should enlist KT2000 Aug 2015 #97

I think it's about time for Schumer to retire. nt ladjf Aug 2015 #4

No, he's all set to be the next leader of the Democrats in the Senate. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #6

You know , Carter's problem when he was President is that he was too honest. Consequently, ladjf Aug 2015 #16

Sadly he will kacekwl Aug 2015 #35

Please color him "gone." nt kelliekat44 Aug 2015 #7

I Swear to ceerhist- ruffburr Aug 2015 #8

It's not being a third wayer. Schumer is just a war pig who wants us geek tragedy Aug 2015 #12

Phone numbers here BeyondGeography Aug 2015 #10

Thank you.... daleanime Aug 2015 #31

If so, it is to be re-elected long after Obama departs. WinkyDink Aug 2015 #11

This is who Schumer is, this isn't about getting re-elected. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #14

3/4 of Democrats and no polls showing less than 60% Jewish support BeyondGeography Aug 2015 #17

Gillibrand represents the exact same voters geek tragedy Aug 2015 #18

So, let me get this straight… He detests relaxation of domestic gun laws... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #19

Really. Wants to take guns from US citizens but wants our citizens to die for Israel. hollowdweller Aug 2015 #57

He's a first-class hypocrite and doesn't belong anywhere near Senate leadership. LAGC Aug 2015 #92

He will have disqualified himself for a leadership role in the U.S. Senate Charles de Gaudless Aug 2015 #20

he's a much more valuable asset to them where he is. nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #21

Yep, the Senate's very own Jon Pollard Charles de Gaudless Aug 2015 #32

I disagree with Senator Schumer ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2015 #22

This is not a mistake on his part. This is a guy who voted for the Iraq war. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #24

you mean like when he said about 3 years to late that karynnj Aug 2015 #28

K&R Change has come Aug 2015 #85

Very sad to hear this. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #23

Of course. RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #26

Controlled? No. Agrees with them and shares their agenda 100%. nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #29

He's always been a piece of shit. Deadshot Aug 2015 #30

yep, throws in some meaningless lip service to liberal causes geek tragedy Aug 2015 #33

And as expected you cannot disagree without the antisemitic whistles nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #34

If AIPAC and Netanyahu had urged him to vote for the deal, we both know geek tragedy Aug 2015 #39

Maybe you miss how you can be critical without going there nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #41

It doesn't work that way. When the government of Israel says "Jews must oppose this because geek tragedy Aug 2015 #44

I am sorry if you do not understand how bad what you posted looks nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #49

Congress is full of corrupt assholes who place various parochial interests above geek tragedy Aug 2015 #51

NY Newsday :Schumer opposes Iran nuke deal, but Gillibrand supports it cal04 Aug 2015 #36

Sonofabitch caved to the Israeli lobby OldRedneck Aug 2015 #37

caved? He plays for that team. They didn't need to lobby him. nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #40

Nothing like rooting for the deaths of thousands of your constituents as they bleed out, jtuck004 Aug 2015 #38

I do not alert, since I am a piece of shit, but the OP is antisemitic. AngryAmish Aug 2015 #42

No it isn't. What the OP is saying is that Schumer is being influenced by AIPAC and Israel. Anyone still_one Aug 2015 #45

Oh, get off it... gregcrawford Aug 2015 #50

I don't see how it is that much different than calling him a Republican TheKentuckian Aug 2015 #58

What? SoapBox Aug 2015 #46

You're surprised at this? nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #48

Malloy spilled the beans on Schumer over a decade ago.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #47

Can't believe anyone thought he would actually support this deal. Daniel537 Aug 2015 #53

exactly. Ideologically, he's a clone of John Bolton and Netanyahu. Worse than Lieberman nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #55

Don't blame me. I didn't vote for him. n/t Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #54

I think I voted for him on the Working Families Party ticket last time. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #56

She's announced FOR the deal? Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #63

earlier today: geek tragedy Aug 2015 #64

Asshat. lonestarnot Aug 2015 #66

Did you mean to call Gillibrand an asshat, or were you responding to the wrong post? geek tragedy Aug 2015 #69

Oops maybe I did. chuckie asshat fuckwad. lonestarnot Aug 2015 #73

I agree! nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #74

That's a pretty brave vote in this state, in this party. Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #68

she's going to be fine. She's not up until 2018, and won't face any primary challengers geek tragedy Aug 2015 #70

sounds like a Harry Reid clone PatrynXX Aug 2015 #59

Harry Reid is ten times the Democrat Chuck "We never should have passed the ACA" Schumer is. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #61

With friends like these... AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #60

He strikes me as a Cassius moreso than a Brutus type nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #62

kick and rec fbc Aug 2015 #65

This needs to disqualify him from ANY leadership role... truebrit71 Aug 2015 #67

Schumer is not just pro Israel. Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #71

So he wants to waste billions on a war with Iran. He's for the war option. lonestarnot Aug 2015 #76

What's American lives to Schumer? Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #77

I have no problem with defending Israel, however, not on Netanyehoo's terms, on American terms and lonestarnot Aug 2015 #82

I used to agree but... Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #107

Not surprised coming from a signatory of PNAC. progressoid Aug 2015 #75

No manhood at all. clg311 Aug 2015 #79

I disagree with his vote. The question I have is, are there already enough votes to ensure the deal stevenleser Aug 2015 #80

They did not release him, they do not have the votes in the Senate. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #81

Wanna bet on which way it goes? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #91

No, as I said right now it's 50/50. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #96

You miss my point. "Uncomfortably close" is the way it's INTENDED to be. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #98

no, when it's this close there are no passes. They don't have enough committed, or even leaning, geek tragedy Aug 2015 #99

Sure, below is my prediction davidpdx Aug 2015 #119

Pelosi says she has the votes in the House so the repeal attempt appears dead. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #94

best not to take that chance, very few of them have committed publicly nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #95

Pelosi has indicated she has to votes in the House to stop the Republican attempt. PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #83

You are exactly right on this point. I don't think people making derogatory remarks on this thread cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #88

Yeah you have to know there are real votes and "cover" votes. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #89

It is the way it is. There's no changing that. Schumer was told by TPTB that he could vote no. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #90

Good points PATRICK Aug 2015 #100

He's nothing more than one tooth in a 100 tooth sprocket. TPTB know this. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #102

The common assumption is we will have the votes. herding cats Aug 2015 #105

He is representing his state. McCamy Taylor Aug 2015 #84

No, he isn't. New York is not Israel. We don't want war with Iran. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #87

What state does Gillibrand represent? jberryhill Aug 2015 #101

This goes beyond that. herding cats Aug 2015 #108

Joe Liebermann's The Wizard Aug 2015 #86

Heh MFrohike Aug 2015 #93

Its close. It can be inferred that a vote against the Iran deal is a vote for war with Iran. If still_one Aug 2015 #104

Shrug MFrohike Aug 2015 #106

And make no mistake, he will be there in full charge when the resolution for an attack on Iran Purveyor Aug 2015 #103

So no Democrat in the Congress can ever vote against something Obama favors? davidn3600 Aug 2015 #109

He trusted Bush but not Obama. Because Bush geek tragedy Aug 2015 #111

Thank Goodness, Senators Shaheen and Gillabrand are with the President, though! Cha Aug 2015 #110

He's certainly no statesman but he's definitely a politician. hobbit709 Aug 2015 #112

People in Israel would disagree. nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #113

Israel is not a part of the United States the last time I looked. hobbit709 Aug 2015 #114

Someone should tell Schumer and AIPAC that. nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #115

Exactly. hobbit709 Aug 2015 #116

He needs to be primaried from the left. Scuba Aug 2015 #117

Charles Schumer (D-Tel Aviv) n/t tabasco Aug 2015 #118

This sickens me. DCBob Aug 2015 #120

LOL!! jeff47 Aug 2015 #121

The Iraq War was and is popular in the NYS DEM Party upper echelon. Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #122

Chuck Lieberman bahrbearian Aug 2015 #123

Boink. Scurrilous Aug 2015 #124

Can Shumer be primaried? Martin Eden Aug 2015 #125