I do not want Hillary Clinton to be the Democratic nominee.

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180. Aw, Will, why?

You just stepped in the donkey shit that the rest of us non-third wayers are well aware of, but you know, we don't talk about it. It's just going to turn into a slugfest and somebody or somebodies are going to get pissed and leave. I was really hoping we could avoid the primary pissing contests until after March. March is a bad time of year on most boards.

I agree, I agree, I agree, and short of something bigger than emailgate, we will be calling her Madame President next year. I wish we could actually have reasonable discussions about alternatives, but I don't think this is the board where that happens anymore. Sorry. I just hope she won't be any more egregious than our current President and keep things from completely going off the rails until we can get someone great, like Elizabeth Warren in there, to clean up the donkey shit.

We can do better, Will, of course, but we won't. And I can only speak for myself, but after putting my heart and soul into Obama, his betrayal of himself was just too much. I'm tired. About the best I can do is try to keep another Bush out of the White House and point and laugh at the antics of the other side. We do the same things too, but it's just embarrassing when we do.

She is Third Way and while the few who even know what that means wholly disagree with her nomination on that basis alone, well, see the first part of the sentence. There aren't enough of us who dislike her enough to fight her. That is, in a nutshell, why she will be the next President, not based on merit, but because we are worn out. First from the insanity of the Bush administration and then by the Obama administration. It's certainly not a meritorious reason by any stretch.

You mentioned that this is a bad idea we will come to regret. I already regret it.