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In reply to the discussion: I do not want Hillary Clinton to be the Democratic nominee. [View all]NYC Liberal
(20,426 posts)44. I “live with her record” easily, because when you actually look at her record, it is a strong liberal one.
Its true that Clinton sat on the Wal-Mart board for six years while her husband was governor of Arkansas, where the chain has its corporate headquarters. She was paid about $18,000 a year for doing it. At the time, she worked at the Rose Law Firm, which had represented Wal-Mart in various matters.
But according to accounts from other board members, Clinton was a thorn in the side of the companys founder, Sam Walton, on the matter of promoting women, few of whom were in the ranks of managers or executives at the time. She also strongly advocated for more environmentally sound corporate practices. She made limited progress in both areas. In 2005 she returned a $5,000 contribution from Wal-Mart, citing serious differences with its current practices.
But according to accounts from other board members, Clinton was a thorn in the side of the companys founder, Sam Walton, on the matter of promoting women, few of whom were in the ranks of managers or executives at the time. She also strongly advocated for more environmentally sound corporate practices. She made limited progress in both areas. In 2005 she returned a $5,000 contribution from Wal-Mart, citing serious differences with its current practices.
Reich was even more gladdened by Hillary's passionate condemnation of corporate-executive compensationone of the Labor Secretary's favorite populist topics. "These are real issues, Bill," she said, pointing out that the average CEO of a big company "is now earning 200 times the average hourly wage. Twenty years ago the ratio was about forty times ... People all over this country are really upset about this." When Bill demurred, saying he couldn't be "out front" on such issues, Hillary said sharply, "Well, somebody in the administration ought to be making these arguments," turning to Reich. "I agree," replied Bill with a nod.
Lets finally do something about the growing economic inequality that is tearing our country apart. The top 1% of our households hold 22% of our nations wealth. That is the highest concentration of wealth in a very small number of people since 1929. So lets close that gap. Lets start holding corporate America responsible, make them pay their fair share again. Enough with the corporate welfare. Enough with the golden parachutes. And enough with the tax incentives for companies to shift jobs overseas.
We need diversion, like drug courts. Non-violent offenders should not be serving hard time in our prisons. They need to be diverted from our prison system. We need to make sure that we do deal with the distinction between crack and powder cocaine. And ultimately we need an attorney general and a system of justice that truly does treat people equally, and that has not happened under this administration.
I have spoken out on my belief that we should have drug courts that would serve as alternatives to the traditional criminal justice system for low-level offenders. If the person comes before the court, agrees to stay clean, is subjected to drug tests once a week, they are diverted from the criminal justice system. We need more treatment. It is unfair to urge people to get rid of their addiction and not have the treatment facilities when people finally makes up their minds to get treatment.
- Voted YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jun 2007)
- Voted YES on making oil-producing and exporting cartels illegal. (Jun 2007)
- Voted YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning. (May 2007)
- Voted YES on disallowing an oil leasing program in Alaska's ANWR. (Nov 2005)
- Voted YES on $3.1B for emergency oil assistance for hurricane-hit areas. (Oct 2005)
- Voted YES on reducing oil usage by 40% by 2025 (instead of 5%). (Jun 2005)
- Voted YES on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. (Mar 2005)
- Voted NO on Bush Administration Energy Policy. (Jul 2003)
- Voted YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010. (Jun 2003)
- Voted YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill. (Mar 2003)
- Voted NO on drilling ANWR on national security grounds. (Apr 2002)
- Voted NO on terminating CAFE standards within 15 months. (Mar 2002)
- Supports tradable emissions permits for greenhouse gases. (Aug 2000)
- Keep efficient air conditioner rule to conserve energy. (Mar 2004)
- Establish greenhouse gas tradeable allowances. (Feb 2005)
- Require public notification when nuclear releases occur. (Mar 2006)
- Rated 100% by the CAF, indicating support for energy independence. (Dec 2006)
- Designate sensitive ANWR area as protected wilderness. (Nov 2007)
- Set goal of 25% renewable energy by 2025. (Jan 2007)
- Let states define stricter-than-federal emission standards. (Jan 2008)
- Gas tax holiday for the summer. (Apr 2008)
I think we need to give people about $650, if they qualify--which will be millions of people--to help pay their energy bills this winter. There are so many people on fixed incomes and working people who are not going to be able to afford the spike in energy costs. And then we will have money for rebates, but lets make them the right rebates. A lot of our seniors on fixed incomes dont pay income taxes. But that doesnt mean theyre immune from the energy costs.
- Count Every Vote Act: end voting discrimination by race. (Jun 2007)
- Voted YES on granting the District of Columbia a seat in Congress. (Sep 2007)
- Voted NO on requiring photo ID to vote in federal elections. (Jul 2007)
- Voted NO on allowing some lobbyist gifts to Congress. (Mar 2006)
- Voted NO on establishing the Senate Office of Public Integrity. (Mar 2006)
- Voted YES on banning "soft money" contributions and restricting issue ads. (Mar 2002)
- Voted NO on require photo ID (not just signature) for voter registration. (Feb 2002)
- Voted YES on banning campaign donations from unions & corporations. (Apr 2001)
- Voluntary public financing for all general elections. (Aug 2000)
- Criminalize false or deceptive info about elections. (Nov 2005)
- Reject photo ID requirements for voting. (Sep 2005)
- Post earmarks on the Internet before voting on them. (Jan 2006)
- Establish the United States Public Service Academy. (Mar 2007)
- Prohibit voter intimidation in federal elections. (Mar 2007)
- Prohibit 'voter caging' which intimidates minority voting. (Nov 2007)
Clintons foes say she doesnt deserve credit for expanding federal health insurance, a claim Clinton has made literally thousands of times. She got health insurance for six million kids, according to one ad.
We review the record and conclude that she deserves plenty of credit, both for the passage of the State Childrens Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) legislation and for pushing outreach efforts to translate the law into reality.
We review the record and conclude that she deserves plenty of credit, both for the passage of the State Childrens Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) legislation and for pushing outreach efforts to translate the law into reality.
If you dont start out trying to get universal health care, we know--and our members of Congress know--youll never get there. If a Democrat doesnt stand for universal health care that includes every single American, you can see the consequences of what that will mean. It is imperative that we have plans, as both John and I do, that from the very beginning say, You know what? Everybody has got to be covered. Theres only three ways of doing it. You can have a single-payer system, you can require employers, or you can have individual responsibility. My plan combines employers and individual responsibility, while maintaining Medicare and Medicaid. The whole idea of universal health care is such a core Democratic principle that I am willing to go to the mat for it. Ive been there before. I will be there again. I am not giving in; I am not giving up; and Im not going to start out leaving 15 million Americans out of health care.
She bitterly condemned the greed of health insurers, who she said were pushing the United States to the brink of bankruptcy.
- Voted YES on overriding veto on expansion of Medicare. (Jul 2008)
- Voted NO on means-testing to determine Medicare Part D premium. (Mar 2008)
- Voted YES on requiring negotiated Rx prices for Medicare part D. (Apr 2007)
- Voted NO on limiting medical liability lawsuits to $250,000. (May 2006)
- Voted YES on expanding enrollment period for Medicare Part D. (Feb 2006)
- Voted YES on increasing Medicaid rebate for producing generics. (Nov 2005)
- Voted YES on negotiating bulk purchases for Medicare prescription drug. (Mar 2005)
- Voted NO on $40 billion per year for limited Medicare prescription drug benefit. (Jun 2003)
- Voted YES on allowing reimportation of Rx drugs from Canada. (Jul 2002)
- Voted YES on allowing patients to sue HMOs & collect punitive damages. (Jun 2001)
- Voted NO on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit. (Apr 2001)
- Voted NO on cutting $221M in benefits to Filipinos who served in WWII US Army. (Apr 2008)
- Voted NO on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping abroad. (Aug 2007)
- Voted YES on limiting soldiers' deployment to 12 months. (Jul 2007)
- Voted YES on implementing the 9/11 Commission report. (Mar 2007)
- Voted YES on preserving habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees. (Sep 2006)
- Voted YES on requiring CIA reports on detainees & interrogation methods. (Sep 2006)
- Voted YES on reauthorizing the PATRIOT Act. (Mar 2006)
- Voted NO on extending the PATRIOT Act's wiretap provision. (Dec 2005)
- Voted YES on restricting business with entities linked to terrorism. (Jul 2005)
- Voted YES on restoring $565M for states' and ports' first responders. (Mar 2005)
- Federalize aviation security. (Nov 2001)
- Rated 100% by SANE, indicating a pro-peace voting record. (Dec 2003)
Following two and a half years of study, members of Bills Advisory Co until on Social Security offered proposals for investing a portion of Social Security retirement funds in the stock market. Hillary reacted emphatically to the report, telling her husband, We mustnt let Social Security be privatized.
Social Security is one of the greatest inventions in American democracy, and I will do everything possible to protect & defend it, starting with getting back to fiscal responsibility, instead of borrowing from the Social Security trust fund. We need to provide some additional opportunities for people to invest, on top of their base guarantee of Social Security, more of a chance to build their nest egg. The risky scheme to privatize would cost between $1 and $2 trillion. That would undermine the promise of Social Security.
Rated 100% by the ARA, indicating a pro-senior voting record
At a time when her contemporaries were challenging the authority of college administrators, she steered the antiwar movement at Wellesley away from the kind of confrontation that convulsed other campuses.
Still, Hillary and her class were responsible for greater changes at Wellesley than any in its history. Black Studies was added to the curriculum. A summer Upward Bound program for inner-city children was initiated, antiwar activities were conducted in college facilities, the skirt rule had been rescinded, grades were given on a pass-fail basis, and interdisciplinary majors were permitted. One of Hillarys strengths as a leader, still evident, was her willingness to participate in the drudgery of government rather than simply direct policy.
Still, Hillary and her class were responsible for greater changes at Wellesley than any in its history. Black Studies was added to the curriculum. A summer Upward Bound program for inner-city children was initiated, antiwar activities were conducted in college facilities, the skirt rule had been rescinded, grades were given on a pass-fail basis, and interdisciplinary majors were permitted. One of Hillarys strengths as a leader, still evident, was her willingness to participate in the drudgery of government rather than simply direct policy.
Im relieved that the intelligence community has reached this conclusion, but I vehemently disagree with the president that nothings changed and therefore nothing in American policy has to change. I have for two years advocated diplomatic engagement with Iran, and I think thats what the president should do.
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Parents choose schools via vouchers
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Drug use is immoral: enforce laws against it
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Sources: http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/hillary_clinton.htm
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OK, So let us have a more Right wing Supreme Court for the next 20 years
QuestionAlways
Mar 2015
#202
And if she loses, that's exactly what we're going to get. Let's have Dem Candidate that
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#382
IMHO, it's higher now because a weak economy is going to hurt those most in need first.
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#349
Especially when the social safety net has already been cut during 'good times'.
bravenak
Mar 2015
#352
'Welfare Reform' hit the poorest, single moms and their children BEFORE the economy
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#379
I'm not sure of the exact year, but Clinton signed into law. And airc, he knew how unpopular it was
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#424
Someone here claimed Bubba had actually campaigned on welfare "reform." And, as I keep saying,
merrily
Mar 2015
#484
My post did not dispute the other poster's claim and it was irrelevant to point of my post anyway.
merrily
Mar 2015
#488
His work for his Delaware corporations on the bankrtuptcy bill he championed is also a problem...
cascadiance
Mar 2015
#241
Sure, Gov Brown, Schumer, Van De Huevel, Frank all saying the same thing is pure coincidence.
merrily
Mar 2015
#170
Let's say, for the sake of discussion, that "the Party" is opposed to a Primary...
brooklynite
Mar 2015
#174
You must really enjoy the rolleyes emoticon or you'd post something that makes some kind of sense.
merrily
Mar 2015
#179
The Clintons are 10-2 in general elections against the Republicans.
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#392
Here's an interesting piece comparing Sen. Warren's chances vs. Sen. Obama's results
wyldwolf
Mar 2015
#453
It's not only Hillary, though. The Party thinks she's entitled to be President with no primary to
merrily
Mar 2015
#200
"you're harming our nominee by making it appear the party is fractured." LOL. The Democratic
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#146
Democrats used to pride themselves on NOT being Stepford lockstep, which was the right's schtick.
merrily
Mar 2015
#199
You said it well. I completely agree. Conservatives are conservatives even if they call
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#207
Agree, Will, but what are the alternatives? Expecially if Warren, Sanders and O'Malley don't run
KoKo
Mar 2015
#16
If he does run, it will be only as a stalking horse for Hillary and maybe as a candidate next time.
merrily
Mar 2015
#131
Huh? I cited quotes from Rep. Frank (video), Gov. Brown, Sen. Schumer (Daily Kos), Katrina
merrily
Mar 2015
#141
I saw Brown say it on video. My links are to the effect that the party thinks primaries are bad.
merrily
Mar 2015
#151
Apology not needed, but accepted. If she were really the only one who could win, they would welcome
merrily
Mar 2015
#211
Cuz there's not a dimes worth of difference between al gore and George bush.
greenman3610
Mar 2015
#19
That is a general election argument not a pre-primary argument. Besides, Gore won.
merrily
Mar 2015
#136
She can beat any other Republican in the race (Clown) car. Can she beat a Progressive Populist
Vincardog
Mar 2015
#124
Who, besides Hillary and Jim, has a campaign organization ready, or even started? n/t
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#171
She fully supports fracking. She refuses to answer on Keystone, tho the Clinton foundation
peacebird
Mar 2015
#43
I'm pretty sure that if Hillary had ever endorsed Keystone someone would have posted a link by now.
Nye Bevan
Mar 2015
#110
"if Hillary had ever endorsed Keystone" - Of course she endorced it... she oversaw the permit.
Veilex
Mar 2015
#162
Links? Where did Obama say "I'm taking this out of your hands because I don't like
MADem
Mar 2015
#253
I admire your reserve after your interlocutor advised you to perform a unnatural act on yourself.
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#263
Where is your candidate? If I did not want Hillary I would present an alternate candidate and
Thinkingabout
Mar 2015
#36
Me either. I am retiring end of May and plan to donate time to Anybody But HRC....
peacebird
Mar 2015
#40
I “live with her record” easily, because when you actually look at her record, it is a strong liberal one.
NYC Liberal
Mar 2015
#44
"Fought against electric rate cut" "Yes: criminalize flag burning" "Yes to wiretapping"
NYC_SKP
Mar 2015
#229
You know, I brought OTI to this board, years ago...but my point is that the flag burning gripe is a
MADem
Mar 2015
#238
The context obviates the "accusation" that Clinton was somehow in the "Waaah!! No Flag Burning!!!"
MADem
Mar 2015
#245
Nice info but many years ago. I don't hear her say anything good concerning the
glinda
Mar 2015
#138
Great--a Republican who is good on social issues. I want more than that from a Democrat
eridani
Mar 2015
#289
Wyden is my Senator, I wrote to tell him that if he fast tracks the TPP I'll support a primary
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#448
The reason nobody is mentioning Biden, or Dodd, or anyone else is the context.
Savannahmann
Mar 2015
#450
The most abhorrent politician I've ever come across was "charismatic" in person.
delrem
Mar 2015
#252
No guarantees in life but death , taxes and Adam Sandler making cheesy movies.
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#272
I thought you wanted to engage me in conversation and not insult me.
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#274
I am hurt that you continue to verbally assault me but I refuse to respond in kind.
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#281
Why spend all that energy fighting for a good candidate when Wall Street can do it for us?
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#73
We've been fed that tired line about only a centrist can win just so we'll
dflprincess
Mar 2015
#204
"Corporate-Friendly Democrats Mobilize to Drag Party Rightward" & ^ here's one now!
RiverLover
Mar 2015
#293
Thanks...that's what struck me as so important for "These Times of Endless War/Engagements"...
KoKo
Mar 2015
#144
Why do you think those like Bill Kristol is so desparate to keep Hillary out of the General Election
Thinkingabout
Mar 2015
#159
You (and other Clinton supporters) are using a strawman to attack anyone who criticizes Clinton
davidpdx
Mar 2015
#166
Disagree on "The only reason Hillary Clinton would get elected is her husband"
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#244
She was a middle class kid who grew up to graduate from the most prestigious law school
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#266
So what? That doesn't entitle her to a anything. And it's hardly hateful to point it out.
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#294
This is just a replay of 2008. Didn't you say the same things then? Didn't the people who are
OregonBlue
Mar 2015
#135
I will not vote for Hillary in the primary nor if she makes it to the general election.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2015
#140
You would be wrong. I have voted straight democratic ticket for 19 years but not anymore.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2015
#227
I am loving this. You people are hilarious. You don't really believe that bullying people on the
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2015
#377
We're force fed rotten candidates that make false claims to get our votes, then turn around and
blkmusclmachine
Mar 2015
#169
lol WP, you eee-villl Hillary hater! That's what I've been called 4 espousin the same views. Welcome 2 a not so exclusive club!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2015
#188
HRC's corporate donors WILL call in their quid pro quos on SCOTUS appointments.
Divernan
Mar 2015
#192
Please tell me how Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer voted on the cases you cited?
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#285
Her SCOTUS appointments will be successfully blocked and obstructed to oblivion.
L0oniX
Mar 2015
#301
I'm on record predicting Cruz winning GOP nom. Although I think Walker is also a possibility.
stevenleser
Mar 2015
#344
LOL, the old "Nominate Hillary or we will lose the General Election" BS. Classic! nt
Logical
Mar 2015
#219
I agree she will probably be the nominee. And I am very disappointed about it. Not a fan. nt
Logical
Mar 2015
#332
You suggested Time magazine knew how a senator would vote on an issue...
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#412
The persons who receives the most delegates is and should be the nominee./NT
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2015
#420
We've been down this path before with these same exact posts in 2007 and I ask you this...
LynneSin
Mar 2015
#287
I made up my mind when republicans attacked her on the made up Benghazi bullshit. The
B Calm
Mar 2015
#291
Well we're not really voting for Hillary, we're voting for a SCOTUS pick that will be obstructed.
L0oniX
Mar 2015
#300
Why do people believe a corporate centered conservative like Hillary, wouldn't put a corporate
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#307
When Rahm Emanuel said "where else are they [liberals] going to go?" it confirmed
GoneFishin
Mar 2015
#315
Like you and me, Will will vote for Hillary if a better candidate does not appear.....
marble falls
Mar 2015
#428
That's OK. I wanted you to be right on the Karl Rove indictment. Looks like disappointment for you
stevenleser
Mar 2015
#341
Your a troll of the GOP, If Democrats work as team we can get anyone elected (Go Hillary)
lewebley3
Mar 2015
#354
I just want to control both the White House and the Congress (w/supermajority again).
ellisonz
Mar 2015
#384
(Rec # 289) Your a republican troll! I bet you even protested against the Invasion of Iraq!
Zorra
Mar 2015
#395
I don't want Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders, I want a candidate who can win.
George II
Mar 2015
#404