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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
20. Good question about the EU
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 03:51 PM
Dec 2014

According to what I found on the EU's website:

In the EU, fundamental rights are guaranteed nationally by the constitutions of individual countries and at EU level by the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights (adopted in 2000 and binding on EU countries since 2009). After they have been through the national courts, individuals may, as a last resort, bring a case before the European Court of Human Rights. (emphasis added)


That confirms my understanding that EU membership involves some surrender of sovereignty. One aspect of that surrender is that member nations can't enforce laws that violate the rights guaranteed in the Charter.

According to what seems to be the text of the Charter], it guarantees freedom of expression (Article 11) and freedom of peaceful assembly (Article 12). I don't know how broadly those provisions have been interpreted, though. (Embedding the link won't work for me -- try http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2007:303:0001:0016:EN DF to read the text.) (OK, I just can't get the link to the 2009 text to work. Here's the text as of 2007; the relevant passages are the same.)

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I lived there in the days of Franco. Let me tell you, the Guardia Civil doesn't mess around. MADem Dec 2014 #1
I visited Spain in the day of Franco. ellenrr Dec 2014 #2
No, I live in America now. MADem Dec 2014 #3
did you hear of the town in the Andalusia region called Marinaleda? ellenrr Dec 2014 #4
I lived four or five hours north of Andulusia, in Murcia Province. MADem Dec 2014 #6
"27% of Spaniards are out of work. Yet in one town everyone has a job" ellenrr Dec 2014 #7
No, I lived there for about half a decade in the sixties. MADem Dec 2014 #9
I knew a guy that was shot by the Guardia PeoViejo Dec 2014 #11
He's lucky to have lived. MADem Dec 2014 #13
Good question about the EU Jim Lane Dec 2014 #20
It's a puzzlement to me, assuming that the information in the OP is accurate... MADem Dec 2014 #21
I bet some idiot Right Winger will claim this is because they're "Liberal".... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #5
well, they're right: freedom to kill or jail anyone who disagrees with you. nt ellenrr Dec 2014 #8
BREAKING NEWS: pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #10
I don't know why that threw everyone into such gales of laughter... MADem Dec 2014 #14
For those not alive then ... bigmonkey Dec 2014 #19
Perhaps "Revolution News" is painting things a little heavy... brooklynite Dec 2014 #12
No..... it is heavy ... and real Ichingcarpenter Dec 2014 #16
OH NO!!!! newfie11 Dec 2014 #15
Very troubling Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #17
Seems only fitting in a time I think history will probably dub deutsey Dec 2014 #18
Now that's terrifying daredtowork Dec 2014 #22
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