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In reply to the discussion: The issues with DU participation IMHO, are a conflict between two thoughts on how to advance Liberal [View all]LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)This lie--->"it IS liberals who ARE failing to show up ... those on the extreme of the left on the ideological spectrum, did, in fact, NOT vote (i.e, refused to run the play, as called)."
LOL. Of course you have ZERO data to back this up. Whereas:
Did liberals really stay home and cause the 2010 rout?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/06/1003805/-Did-liberals-really-stay-home-and-cause-the-2010-rout
So I went back to the exit polls and the picture I see shows nothing like that. If you are a proponent of this claim, I challenge you for empirical proof that some set of activist liberals "took their ball and went home" or whatever metaphor you prefer to make Obama's leftward critics appear childish and immature. Inside, the evidence I found that shows this just ain't so.
http://blogforarizona.net/do-progressives-even-sit-out-elections-the-numbers-say-no/
As you can see, Democrats did slightly better with liberals in 2010 than in 2006. Had there really been a collective were-sitting-out-the-election-to-spite-Obama pout going on, then there should have been a sharp drop in the liberal participation percentage. Yet notice the 9% in moderate voter participation and the concomitant 10% increase in conservative turnout. Republicans were pumped for that election but their turnout tends to be higher in midterms anyway. Millions of moderate voters either flipped to conservative or stayed home in 2010.
As you can see, all the Democratic groups dropped, but the liberal Democrats dropped least of all
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/progressive-movement/news/2012/11/08/44348/the-return-of-the-obama-coalition/
Ideology. Liberals were 25 percent of voters in 2012, up from 22 percent in 2008. Since 1992 the percent of liberals among presidential voters has varied in a narrow band between 20 percent and 22 percent, so the figure for this year is quite unusual. Conservatives, at 35 percent, were up one point from the 2008 level, but down a massive 7 points since 2010.
Ideology. Obama received less support in 2012 from all ideology groups, though the drop-offs were not particularly sharp in any group. He received 86 percent support from liberals (89 percent in 2008), 56 percent from moderates (60 percent in 2008), and 17 percent from conservatives (20 percent in 2008).
I have not seen a similar breakdown for 2014 yet.
You also claim we are on the "extreme left". Well then, our few votes certainly aren't enough to swing an election, right? Imagine, we are both at the "extreme" edge AND we have so many votes that it swings elections! Amazing!
>LOL ... you didn't cheer at all! Those of you that went to the polls, booed Democratic candidates all the way to the ballot box ...
On noes! All we did was turn out to vote for them?? Who knew we weren't supposed to point out that they were running shitty "make believe we aren't really Democrats" campaigns that were destined to lose?? I guess what we should have been doing is cheering their obviously horrible tactics!
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