The issues with DU participation IMHO, are a conflict between two thoughts on how to advance Liberal

[TheKentuckian]

100. Steven, we don't believe just that progress is too slow and incremental but that it is mostly in the

wrong direction.

We aren't going too slow on civil liberties, they are being scuttled.

We don't think it is taking too long to rein in Wall Street, we are ever giving them more power.

We don't believe the murderous and corrupt police state is being put under control too slowly but rather they are growing more oppressive, more empowered, and less accountable by the day.

We aren't seeing a wealth disparity shrinking too slowly but rather seeing it expand.

We don't believe our environment is being improved too slowly but that everyday the magnitude of the issue grows.

We don't think the commons is growing too slowly but rather that is being gutted.

We are not angered that Social Security is being expanded too slowly but that is in danger even from Democrats of being cut.

The upset is not that public education isn't being bolstered enough but rather it is being destroyed as quickly as can be gotten away with.

We aren't frustrated with too slow movement from big carbon but that their reach increases dangerously.

We see decreasing water security not too slow an increase.

Homelessness isn't being reduced too slowly, it is growing.

Job and broad prosperity killing "free trade" aren't being scuttled too slowly there are ever more of them.

I think you misdiagnosed the situation entirely in a self serving fashion. Undo the progress of the past 25 or 30 years? Fucking A, it is imperative to undo the Reagan Revulsion that has had the lion's share of progress during that time frame.

It isn't so much the speed but the heading. No sense discussing pace when direction is at issue. Direction is what you are trying to ignore and pretend away.