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stevenleser

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47. It makes sense under one limited context. His popularity level was plummeting in Russia.

Mon Nov 17, 2014, 08:22 PM

Nov 2014

It wasn't getting low by US standards, but it had fallen from around 70-80% to around 50-60%.

I really think that is at least half of the "why". Putin knew that humanity had not evolved beyond a successful war of conquest boosting your popularity at home.

Now, it's stupid overall, I agree. But I think Putin miscalculated the response. I think I remember seeing articles to that effect back in March and April. He expected a few weeks of complaining and then life would go on as normal.

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Putin hoped to get Merkel and Germany on his side in the Ukraine crisis. That hope is over [View all] stevenleser Nov 2014 OP

The Putin-fluffers will be along directly, replete with RT articles ... 11 Bravo Nov 2014 #1

I would be interested to hear how they would characterize the relationship between Putin and Merkel stevenleser Nov 2014 #2

Agreed, but appearing silly has not hindered them heretofore. 11 Bravo Nov 2014 #3

True, but in those instances, they fell back on covert/spy/conspiracy theory stuff. stevenleser Nov 2014 #4

Well, Merkel is an actual conservative, a RWer. CJCRANE Nov 2014 #5

Yeah, while Putin is busy planting daisies in rifles... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #6

No, he's a bad guy. Just like Saddam was, and Gadaffi, and Assad. CJCRANE Nov 2014 #7

Didn't happen.... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #10

And what happens when we take this "scum" down? CJCRANE Nov 2014 #13

We're not taking him down...he just needs to stay the phuck joeybee12 Nov 2014 #23

After years of state capitalism Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #61

Yeah, and Putin is a liberal lion!!! Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #8

See my post above. What happened when we removed Saddam and Gadaffi? CJCRANE Nov 2014 #9

Well, we can all thank the heavens that it's not up to you. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #11

The Iraq invasion, Syria and Libya interventions weren't up to me either. CJCRANE Nov 2014 #15

As it should be. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #20

I never suggested it should be. But I was more accurate about the Iraq invasion than the "experts" CJCRANE Nov 2014 #26

How many more countries must Pooty Poot invade before you assign blame to him & not the US? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #28

Do you really think he's going to invade other countries CJCRANE Nov 2014 #31

I didn't think he'd invade Crimea, but I don't have your crystal ball. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #35

"I didn't think he'd invade Crimea, but I don't have your crystal ball." Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #43

+1 Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #44

That would imply she is going along with Putin, since Putin is the Russian version of a neocon. stevenleser Nov 2014 #12

I can see what they're doing very clearly. I was against the Iraq invasion. I was in the minority. CJCRANE Nov 2014 #14

I was against the Iraq invasion as well, but not out of a sense of negative nationalism stevenleser Nov 2014 #17

I agree but I don't think our side are honest brokers acting in good faith. CJCRANE Nov 2014 #19

It doesn't matter what kind of "broker our side" is. Unless you don't believe any news source other Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #25

Neither you nor I speak for the world. We have a difference of opinion CJCRANE Nov 2014 #27

The world, with the exception of you & a few others, has spoken. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #33

Your own graph shows something different. Anyway, let's hope he gets ousted and see what happens. nt CJCRANE Nov 2014 #36

Yeah, "let's hope". Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #39

People in the U.S. have odd definitions of the world. former9thward Nov 2014 #32

You think two out of around two hundred countries makes your point? stevenleser Nov 2014 #45

Well our State Department would disagree with you. former9thward Nov 2014 #50

Really? I have a contact over there. Should I ask them? I bet they will disagree. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #51

Sure, ask your "contact". former9thward Nov 2014 #53

It's the standard press contact. I can forward you the email and you can call to verify stevenleser Nov 2014 #55

Yes. former9thward Nov 2014 #62

More accurately, the governments of the world's two most populated countries... LanternWaste Nov 2014 #64

That same argument can be made about every country. former9thward Nov 2014 #65

FWIW I'm not saying this because I'm againt President Obama (which seems to be the implication). CJCRANE Nov 2014 #34

The subject of this thread is Angela Merkel. Please try & keep up. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #37

Implication. Look it up. I have a feeling this subthread has turned into a get the last word in fest CJCRANE Nov 2014 #38

Lol. RWer? I doubt it ecpecially compare to an yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #52

I was going to point that out. Merkel is to the left of many Democrats IMHO. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #56

Yes! You are 100 percent correct! yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #57

German conservatives are to the LEFT of US Democrats. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #58

This sort of post helps make DU suck. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #30

I think being right is a universal defense to "making DU suck" much like it is with libel/slander stevenleser Nov 2014 #49

Too late! Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #40

I have a different opinion. I am not a Putinista, a Saddam-lover or a neocon. CJCRANE Nov 2014 #16

You haven't voiced a different opinion. A different opinion would be that Merkel is on Putin's side stevenleser Nov 2014 #18

I do not think our side are acting in good faith. I think they have a prearranged agenda. CJCRANE Nov 2014 #21

No, you are just a stereotypical Hate-America-Firster. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Nov 2014 #63

Pffft! zappaman Nov 2014 #22

LOL! stevenleser Nov 2014 #24

I find it very hard to believe Putin EVER expected to get Merkel/Germany's support. KittyWampus Nov 2014 #29

I'm seriously wondering if Putin is suffering from some sort of brain disfunction, perhaps dementia. northoftheborder Nov 2014 #41

It makes sense under one limited context. His popularity level was plummeting in Russia. stevenleser Nov 2014 #47

cue the rt crew DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #42

If anybody can spot a rat bastard fomenting crises to facilitate land grabs -- Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #46

And that may be the best response to my OP among many very good ones. stevenleser Nov 2014 #48

Why sir, I blush. nt Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #54

You mean she wasn't impressed with his massive pecs? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2014 #60