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In reply to the discussion: Putin hoped to get Merkel and Germany on his side in the Ukraine crisis. That hope is over [View all]CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)31. Do you really think he's going to invade other countries
when the whole of NATO is itching to take him on?
It's the same story we were fed about Saddam and Iran.
They are mad, nutters, we must do something.
Bush and Blair were itching for Saddam to put a foot wrong so they could take him on (see the Downing Street Memo). He didn't but they took him down anyway.
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Putin hoped to get Merkel and Germany on his side in the Ukraine crisis. That hope is over [View all]
stevenleser
Nov 2014
OP
I would be interested to hear how they would characterize the relationship between Putin and Merkel
stevenleser
Nov 2014
#2
True, but in those instances, they fell back on covert/spy/conspiracy theory stuff.
stevenleser
Nov 2014
#4
I never suggested it should be. But I was more accurate about the Iraq invasion than the "experts"
CJCRANE
Nov 2014
#26
How many more countries must Pooty Poot invade before you assign blame to him & not the US?
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2014
#28
"I didn't think he'd invade Crimea, but I don't have your crystal ball."
Nuclear Unicorn
Nov 2014
#43
That would imply she is going along with Putin, since Putin is the Russian version of a neocon.
stevenleser
Nov 2014
#12
I can see what they're doing very clearly. I was against the Iraq invasion. I was in the minority.
CJCRANE
Nov 2014
#14
I was against the Iraq invasion as well, but not out of a sense of negative nationalism
stevenleser
Nov 2014
#17
It doesn't matter what kind of "broker our side" is. Unless you don't believe any news source other
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2014
#25
Your own graph shows something different. Anyway, let's hope he gets ousted and see what happens. nt
CJCRANE
Nov 2014
#36
Really? I have a contact over there. Should I ask them? I bet they will disagree. nt
stevenleser
Nov 2014
#51
It's the standard press contact. I can forward you the email and you can call to verify
stevenleser
Nov 2014
#55
More accurately, the governments of the world's two most populated countries...
LanternWaste
Nov 2014
#64
FWIW I'm not saying this because I'm againt President Obama (which seems to be the implication).
CJCRANE
Nov 2014
#34
Implication. Look it up. I have a feeling this subthread has turned into a get the last word in fest
CJCRANE
Nov 2014
#38
I was going to point that out. Merkel is to the left of many Democrats IMHO. nt
stevenleser
Nov 2014
#56
I think being right is a universal defense to "making DU suck" much like it is with libel/slander
stevenleser
Nov 2014
#49
You haven't voiced a different opinion. A different opinion would be that Merkel is on Putin's side
stevenleser
Nov 2014
#18
I do not think our side are acting in good faith. I think they have a prearranged agenda.
CJCRANE
Nov 2014
#21
I find it very hard to believe Putin EVER expected to get Merkel/Germany's support.
KittyWampus
Nov 2014
#29
I'm seriously wondering if Putin is suffering from some sort of brain disfunction, perhaps dementia.
northoftheborder
Nov 2014
#41
It makes sense under one limited context. His popularity level was plummeting in Russia.
stevenleser
Nov 2014
#47
If anybody can spot a rat bastard fomenting crises to facilitate land grabs --
Nuclear Unicorn
Nov 2014
#46