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44. The HCW or the informed contact

Sun Oct 26, 2014, 12:01 AM

Oct 2014

would notify authorities immediately. I would imagine, that toilet would immediately be put out of service. Knowing our abundance of caution with this issue, I think the whole bathroom would be put on lockdown.

But yes, if you somehow managed to use a toilet after an Ebola patient, highly unlikely as it is, you would be a contact, that would be traced, informed and in touch with health authorities.

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Obama should rent a first class Hotel [View all] RobertEarl Oct 2014 OP

Well, much cheaper to the American public is that they get screened TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #1

Alternately, DWB/MSF could spring for a quarantine center like Samaritan's Purse did. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #4

The US can afford it RobertEarl Oct 2014 #79

It's unnecessary to quarantine and would ensure health workers won't want to work with patients KittyWampus Oct 2014 #7

Bullshit. These folks go to Africa and live in fucking tents or spartan conditions TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #8

so they should be rewarded by incarceration. But it's okay cause according to you they are well off. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #12

I don't call a quarantine at home "incarceration". Goodness, I've been incarcerated all day, TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #13

You were forced to stay in your home, prevented from leaving by someone else? uppityperson Oct 2014 #39

It wouldn't disturb me any more than it disturbed my neighbors, years ago, pnwmom Oct 2014 #59

even if you weren't sick enough to expose anyone? KMOD Oct 2014 #62

We know their chance of exposure isn't nil. Dr. Brantley and Dr. Spencer pnwmom Oct 2014 #69

here's what I dont get KMOD Oct 2014 #73

Bodily fluids. And vomit is a bodily fluid that carries the Ebola virus. pnwmom Oct 2014 #76

Well I'm dissapointed KMOD Oct 2014 #84

The article reports a VARIETY of opinions, not just one -- if you read it to the end pnwmom Oct 2014 #85

You are focusing on silly trivial things KMOD Oct 2014 #91

Hundreds? A couple of weeks ago it was 16. KamaAina Oct 2014 #98

You're right. I was thinking of medical workers overall, not just doctors from DWB. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #100

Yet you were free to leave if you wanted... Oktober Oct 2014 #94

It's unnecessary KMOD Oct 2014 #29

I'm a former critical care nurse. They need to be quarantined for public safety. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #33

" It is unlikely that anyone would get infected from these people, but unlikely is not impossible" KMOD Oct 2014 #40

The "contact tracing" would never end if a health care worker gets on a plane and lands at TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #42

The HCW or the informed contact KMOD Oct 2014 #44

There is simply no way to know, in busy public areas, everyone who TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #45

If they are not symptomatic, they are not symtomatic KMOD Oct 2014 #52

Your last sentence just isn't true. Even the CDC would have TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #56

Yep, your mind is made up. Believe what you want to believe. KMOD Oct 2014 #75

"Immediately." Not quite. By the time that public toilet was put out of service, pnwmom Oct 2014 #64

Forget it, I give up KMOD Oct 2014 #74

Could you just please read this one article before you give up? pnwmom Oct 2014 #82

And what exactly is a fever, pnwmom KMOD Oct 2014 #88

The WHO study defined "fever" as 100.4 degrees. The same criterion the CDC is using now. pnwmom Oct 2014 #89

by that definition. It doesn't mean their fever wasn't elevated KMOD Oct 2014 #90

You're right, if they only have a fever that's not a problem for a bystander. pnwmom Oct 2014 #92

Can we please get over the fever aspect KMOD Oct 2014 #93

DWB already tells them not to go back to work -- that they should stay home and rest for 3 weeks. pnwmom Oct 2014 #58

It's an abundance of caution KMOD Oct 2014 #66

They ask them to not go to work, which is the biggest factor for most people. pnwmom Oct 2014 #71

nice sentiment, but they can get in line bmac19gg Oct 2014 #2

Exactly. And these volunteers are usually people of means to begin with. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #5

"These volunteers are usually people of means to begin with" wtf? Don't realize how out of line KittyWampus Oct 2014 #9

They can pay for their own luxury suite. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #10

If they're asymptomatic there is no need for quarantine. Just because you are irrational KittyWampus Oct 2014 #14

I'm not irrational, sweetie pie. Bless your little heart. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #15

I think it is yours that need blessing. nt awoke_in_2003 Oct 2014 #28

Awww, you too! TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #35

And you know thuis how? HERVEPA Oct 2014 #18

I think they can afford their own accommodations, if they can afford to be TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #19

Yeh, MSF is flush with funds. Not using any of it to support their people who are HERVEPA Oct 2014 #20

I'm not unfeeling. But this suggestion is ridiculous. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #21

And not one of Duncan's family was infected. morningfog Oct 2014 #22

What makes you think MSF has money to spare? HERVEPA Oct 2014 #23

Does Samaritan's Purse? Organizations and businesses must come up with the funds TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #24

"Duncan's family was locked up with ebola-ridden filth for days." and how many got ebola? uppityperson Oct 2014 #86

Volunteers are usually people of means? What the fuck. That is seriously insulting. uppityperson Oct 2014 #41

A gilded cage is still a cage. And no visitors. A lonely guilded cage. And there is the science. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #3

Congress controls the purse strings. So you really mean Congress should rent a first class hotel. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #6

right...Obama can just allocate funds whereever he wants! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #11

Tell the DoD to finance it RobertEarl Oct 2014 #16

I know he cannot do whatever he wants....Congress holds the purse strings...only they can allocate VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #26

3000 troops to W. Africa RobertEarl Oct 2014 #27

He DOES have that power as Commander in Chief....as enumerated in the Constitution... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #31

The Republicans control the House. All appropriations begin in the House. MADem Oct 2014 #96

Obama would propose renting out the Greenbriar baldguy Oct 2014 #17

hey, I proposed the Greenbriar before I saw your post! AngryAmish Oct 2014 #103

Great minds think alike. baldguy Oct 2014 #105

A gilded cage is still a cage. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #25

I did not say mandatory, did i? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #30

They aren't looking for an upscale hotel room KMOD Oct 2014 #32

So lets give them some r&r RobertEarl Oct 2014 #50

If your idea is sincere, then it is very sweet, KMOD Oct 2014 #60

The old saying: RobertEarl Oct 2014 #65

Glad to hear you say that about Doctors Without Borders. zappaman Oct 2014 #68

:) I like win-win too! KMOD Oct 2014 #70

Beats a hospital RobertEarl Oct 2014 #77

Agree. n/t Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #34

21 days is nuts. mopinko Oct 2014 #36

Then do a series of ebola blood tests, for two weeks. After two weeks with TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #37

We can't be too risky RobertEarl Oct 2014 #38

And give them shopping money zappaman Oct 2014 #43

The internetz, you won them. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #46

You just lost. RobertEarl Oct 2014 #49

Oops, left out one zappaman Oct 2014 #51

What about those returning from fighting ISIS? Or genocide? Or famine? flvegan Oct 2014 #47

Sure. Them too RobertEarl Oct 2014 #48

What would happen if flvegan Oct 2014 #53

They might make a mistake and infect you? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #54

Point well-missed. flvegan Oct 2014 #55

Fancy quarantine is still quarantine. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #57

Set them up comfy RobertEarl Oct 2014 #61

Don't forget the Cuban cigars! zappaman Oct 2014 #63

I'm sure they'd rather go about their lives. Why do you have a problem with that? LeftyMom Oct 2014 #67

for Doctors their problem is not lack of money as it is Lack of Time JI7 Oct 2014 #72

What about the nurses? RobertEarl Oct 2014 #78

they don't make as much but the main issue is still time for them JI7 Oct 2014 #80

Time RobertEarl Oct 2014 #81

Leaving aside for the moment whether a quarantine is warranted/needed... Travelman Oct 2014 #83

This is not for known infected people RobertEarl Oct 2014 #87

I doubt any hotel would take them Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #95

Again: These are not infected people RobertEarl Oct 2014 #97

He can't---his credit card got denied..... msanthrope Oct 2014 #99

And free cable, too. (All the channels). AngryAmish Oct 2014 #101

The Greenbriar AngryAmish Oct 2014 #102

The Hale Koa Hotel in Waikiki would do nicely. KamaAina Oct 2014 #104

I know where!!!! zappaman Oct 2014 #106