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Warren Stupidity

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107. We could just start walking backwards to every event in the universe that preceded

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 02:01 PM

Jul 2014

Bush v Gore and start blaming those events too. But that would be absurd. Bush v Gore did not establish a legal precedent, this decision did. The scope of these two decisions are entirely different.

Bush v Gore intervened in a presidential election, and was an outrage, but that decision established no new constitutional law. Sure you can go ahead and blame everything else that happened afterwards on that decision including hobby lobby, but again, that is a bit ridiculous, and is outside the scope of constitutional law. You might as well go back and blame it all on Marbury v. Madison 'cause without that there would be no Bush v Gore.

Hobby Lobby has set new law, it has, although limited for now, turned the first amendment on its head with respect to religious freedom and individual rights, establishing for the first time a right to impose religious beliefs on others.

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DAY AFTER: Religious Leaders Send Letter To Obama Ask For Exemption From Discriminating Against LGBT [View all] kpete Jul 2014 OP

OMG I thought this was the Onion, or the Rude Pundit... leftstreet Jul 2014 #1

And the people screaming "hair on fire" and "hysteria" yesterday will respond to this how? MohRokTah Jul 2014 #2

Right, the ladies were all aflutter and getting the vapors Ilsa Jul 2014 #29

I was so aflutter I haven't stopped clutching my pearls yet Hekate Jul 2014 #46

Rich, white, heterosexual Christian men can breathe a Ilsa Jul 2014 #48

We need a picture/caricature for them. BootinUp Jul 2014 #69

I'm sure Justice Scalia is thrilled by this news. herding cats Jul 2014 #3

And, from the Department of I Fucking Told You So, kpete Jul 2014 #5

Yep. Totally expected and only the tip of the iceberg. herding cats Jul 2014 #12

True. Companies will want to be able to do anything on religious grounds. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #51

Yep, SCOTUS has now established precedent for all types of inequality, persecution and RKP5637 Jul 2014 #90

waitand see kardonb Jul 2014 #53

All of us. obxhead Jul 2014 #108

Yep - From the Department of anyone could have Fucking Told You so. n/t Aerows Jul 2014 #26

We MUST have term limits for SCOTUS to purge idiots from such power. It is really a stupid RKP5637 Jul 2014 #85

Yep. They chipped away at the "weakest link," Ilsa Jul 2014 #32

+1 LiberalLoner Jul 2014 #95

Yep. I can't believe there are people who didn't see this coming. calimary Jul 2014 #37

Those 5 black-robed Theocrats KNEW this would result. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, can any longer be blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #27

It's a shame this suit wasn't brought forth by a Scientology group. herding cats Jul 2014 #49

He should have mindwalker_i Jul 2014 #40

OMG! herding cats Jul 2014 #50

I looked for something like that on The Google mindwalker_i Jul 2014 #62

a VERY SMALL LIMP PENIS, at that. pangaia Jul 2014 #81

His insurance-paid Viagra is given him a happy hard-on. nt valerief Jul 2014 #60

Exactly! It is causing the divisions, hatefulness and inequality Scalia and his ilk love. The RKP5637 Jul 2014 #82

Gosh, I'm so surprised. winter is coming Jul 2014 #4

Surprise, surprise, surprise! Who'd a-thought it? Glorfindel Jul 2014 #6

Of fucking course. Tip of the iceberg. Perhaps the worst SCOTUS decision in decades. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #7

"worst SCOTUS decision in decades"? Nope. See Bush v. Gore. thesquanderer Jul 2014 #41

bush v gore set no legal precedents. Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #92

True, but it yielded two Justices who set plenty thesquanderer Jul 2014 #94

It didn't have to, now, did it? WinkyDink Jul 2014 #105

We could just start walking backwards to every event in the universe that preceded Warren Stupidity Jul 2014 #107

I think you know what I meant, to wit: Bush was such a DISASTER, beginning with, literally, a WinkyDink Jul 2014 #109

It really is, I am no historian but I would say worst in 100 years. BootinUp Jul 2014 #70

Omg. They didn't waste any time. This makes me sick. octoberlib Jul 2014 #8

Slippery slope. And this comes before the Exec Order has even been detailed. pinto Jul 2014 #9

Faith in action. The Faith Community exists only in the negative, they are against this, against Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #10

And they didn't have to prove their Bible outlaws birth control leftstreet Jul 2014 #14

I'll tell you, blueNW... theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #16

That "negative" faith in action has much to do with the decline Dawson Leery Jul 2014 #30

I'm disgusted. Aerows Jul 2014 #96

I wish I knew more about the impeachment process theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #97

Me too. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #100

You knew this was coming, people theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #11

ad nauseam kpete Jul 2014 #13

the wrong kind of Christian. nt el_bryanto Jul 2014 #17

Exactly. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #102

As I said yesterday, the Hobby Lobby case was just the shot across the bow theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #18

That's one of my favorite quotations. It is so true. Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #52

Bush's Faith-Based Initiative may have been the shot across the bow - merging of religion & state Miss_Underestimated Jul 2014 #74

Atheists are definitely at the top of their list. tridim Jul 2014 #23

As an atheist, I have always thought rvt1000rr Jul 2014 #44

We've seen where this takes countries, one, then the next and the dominoes all fall ... such great RKP5637 Jul 2014 #88

The Obama administration is unlikely to grant that exemption el_bryanto Jul 2014 #15

The argument is pretty weak for them, though. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #21

Nods - and . . . this group may not sue el_bryanto Jul 2014 #22

THIS. Volaris Jul 2014 #47

Waiting for the scoffers to apologize for pooh-poohing our concern. riqster Jul 2014 #19

I'm pretty sure sock puppets do write on these type of websites. They may even carry water for the blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #31

It's only 4 methods!! And they can still buy them!!! jeff47 Jul 2014 #76

Whatta guy! riqster Jul 2014 #84

the version of ENDA that passed the Senate already has a massive exemption dsc Jul 2014 #20

This crap has been ongoing for a long time theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #24

Swimming in a fiery lake you-know-where, Jerry Falwell is grinning like a Cheshire cat right now Jack Rabbit Jul 2014 #25

I'd show you a picture of my shocked face Aerows Jul 2014 #28

With Hobby Lobby, the U.S. Constitution is trumpable to every far rightwing whim. Somehow, I know blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #33

See what happens when that theocracy camel gets his nuse under the tent? MohRokTah Jul 2014 #36

Fine. Cancel their federal contracts. arcane1 Jul 2014 #34

They can forfeit the government contracts, just like the Hobby Lobby employees are supposed to quit. Justice Jul 2014 #56

Yep. If they don't like the law, take their business elsewhere. arcane1 Jul 2014 #61

Yes, the fact they are federal contractors treestar Jul 2014 #77

I hope PBO tells them they don't have to apply for federal contracts Ilsa Jul 2014 #35

Any order that contains such an exemption would be a waste of time. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #39

They certainly didn't waste any time. stage left Jul 2014 #38

Next, it will be what faith you belong to. LiberalArkie Jul 2014 #42

No colored people allowed, no LGBT, no women rights, only this religion, yep, oh the RKP5637 Jul 2014 #87

K&R NealK Jul 2014 #43

And So It Begins - The Inexorable Slide Toward Theocracy cantbeserious Jul 2014 #45

Theocracy is the Only Sure Way to Keep Away 99%ers with Pitchforks AndyTiedye Jul 2014 #79

Disagree. Tommymac Jul 2014 #106

Well who could've seen that coming?! redqueen Jul 2014 #54

Easy solution, based on Hobby Lobby decision Justice Jul 2014 #55

Excellent post. K&R Louisiana1976 Jul 2014 #57

A 28th Amendment would fix all this mess. bl968 Jul 2014 #58

Here comes the tidal wave of totalitarianism. nt valerief Jul 2014 #59

Being that they are federal contractors, I don't want my taxes paying for discrimination. muntrv Jul 2014 #63

That was a sewer level decision, Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2014 #64

No one could have predicted... City Lights Jul 2014 #65

Is America becoming the new Hitler Germany? riverbendviewgal Jul 2014 #66

Fuck No Bigots! BootinUp Jul 2014 #67

Yup, they will exploit the hell out of this cancer and spread it until it infects the whole body. TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #68

Why am I not surprised? n/t Duval Jul 2014 #71

Are these organizations taking federal money for contracts? cstanleytech Jul 2014 #72

My religion says Bickle Jul 2014 #73

This is horrendous and perhaps what's needed. Just get it right the hell out there. nolabear Jul 2014 #75

Disgusting TexinD Jul 2014 #78

Religion and its resulting idiocy and corruption = Scourge of humanity Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #80

Religion, the source of so much hatred in mankind, eons of hatred established by religion. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #93

My Gawd. bvf Jul 2014 #83

Yes, this was inevitable. sadoldgirl Jul 2014 #86

Notice that the concept of simply not taking business one objects to does not cross their greedy Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #89

By design etherealtruth Jul 2014 #91

From what I understand ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #98

Regarding your last paragraph--I fear that the SC riversedge Jul 2014 #110

Assholes ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #99

But but but...the SCOTUS apologists on DU are saying we have no right to be mad! Rex Jul 2014 #101

Pandora's box has been opened. L0oniX Jul 2014 #103

Dependency Anewhope32 Jul 2014 #104