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Trust Buster

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58. The media is irrelevant.....particularly since Citizen's United...

Thu Apr 17, 2014, 12:23 PM

Apr 2014

......Presidential candidates can't succeed without corporate support. I don't like it but that's the sad state of affairs. You're fooling yourself if you think Warren or Sanders could win without a huge amount of special interest support. Our main goal in 2016 should be to support the most electable candidate. Then, that candidate/President will get to choose 2-3 Supreme Court Justices. At that point, decisions like Citizen's United and the Voting Rights Act can be reversed. Until such a time., any Democrat in the Oval Office will remain handcuffed. The politician can't get around the system. The system must be changed first. I think both Warren and Sanders would agree with me on that point.

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Warren, Clinton, Sanders, etc. Who would you vote for? [View all] L0oniX Apr 2014 OP

EliZabeth Warren. Scuba Apr 2014 #1

Anyone of the three actually madokie Apr 2014 #2

George Clinton... he def brings da funk. HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #3

He's doing a show here this weekend. L0oniX Apr 2014 #4

Saw him last year. Great show! nt Mojorabbit Apr 2014 #127

The Cabinet would be the P-Funk Allstars NightWatcher Apr 2014 #8

George Clinton (F) ..."Parliament" Funkadelic (political) party L0oniX Apr 2014 #11

P-Funk could easily settle Ukraine Crisis with a massive funk jam. HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #13

He already laid out his plans... Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2014 #23

Bootsy Collins for Secretary of State!!...nt SidDithers Apr 2014 #122

Oh, I would DEFINITELY go to THAT inaugural! FailureToCommunicate Apr 2014 #24

Bootsie for VP L0oniX Apr 2014 #44

That I would vote for! Love Bootsie! sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #86

Yessir! With Bootsy as Vice! nyabingi Apr 2014 #52

George and Bootsy in 16! Exposethefrauds Apr 2014 #90

The only Clinton I would vote for. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2014 #132

If the primaries were today my vote would go to Warren. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #5

Even if she didn't win, running would up her Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #105

If Bernie was at least 10 years younger, I'd support him all the way. LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #6

Like Sanders, prefer Warren. Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2014 #7

Me too. My first choice would be Warren, but Sanders is a very close second. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #10

Anyone who is not Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. ananda Apr 2014 #9

Lowest bar ever. Scuba Apr 2014 #12

So Satan is ok with you? L0oniX Apr 2014 #14

Satan is a Democrat? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #101

Well, he IS a DINO-- Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #106

No I think he is a card carrying Republican..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #109

I would vote for Satan over ANY Republican . . . InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2014 #133

Dr. Warren, Bernie Sanders heaven05 Apr 2014 #15

Looks like George has a chance against Hillary. L0oniX Apr 2014 #17

For the Democratic Party nomination or for President? el_bryanto Apr 2014 #16

Hillary is the only Democrat capable of winning in 2016 IMO. Trust Buster Apr 2014 #18

Tell that to George. L0oniX Apr 2014 #20

The corporate media certainly have constructed this meme now with Elizabeth Warren on the fringe... cascadiance Apr 2014 #49

The media is irrelevant.....particularly since Citizen's United... Trust Buster Apr 2014 #58

And tell me how supporting candidates that PUSH in stealth the TPP is going to help us... cascadiance Apr 2014 #62

I essentially agree with everything you just said but...... Trust Buster Apr 2014 #68

The people thought they were voting for significant change when they voted for Mr. Obama in 2008. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #89

Heard the same thing in 2008, until Hillary couldn't even win the nom. n/t Dawgs Apr 2014 #53

+1000 nt Logical Apr 2014 #65

Clintons poll numbers were crap this far out. joshcryer Apr 2014 #130

LOL, good one! Nt Logical Apr 2014 #61

True Dat ! Takes a relative newbee to cut Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2014 #81

In a primary or general election? JHB Apr 2014 #19

Either of them wyldwolf Apr 2014 #21

Warren is now as popular as Kucinich was last time Polito Vega Apr 2014 #22

Clever. bunnies Apr 2014 #25

...only this time the flying saucer is going to land on Wallstreet. L0oniX Apr 2014 #50

That pretty much proves that many Democrats on the internet are more intelligent Zorra Apr 2014 #57

I had the feeling that Kucinich didn't win the Democratic nomination partially Cal33 Apr 2014 #115

She, next to Obama, would be the most threatened president. I don't trust that Warren knows how ancianita Apr 2014 #26

Irrelevant treestar Apr 2014 #27

Warren AND Sanders on same ticket. nt 2naSalit Apr 2014 #28

This shows where the DU is compared to the rest of the party (and nation) ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2014 #29

Fact check that did ya? L0oniX Apr 2014 #46

Just managing expectations. Scuba Apr 2014 #51

Do you need it spelled out? ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2014 #78

Yea go ahead ...spell it out. L0oniX Apr 2014 #85

With another Republican as president, democracy in America would soon be dead. With Cal33 Apr 2014 #116

Democracy does not "die" when you lose an election... ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2014 #120

Democracy is already dead. The dead just don't know it yet. L0oniX Apr 2014 #131

Well, the very fact that we can still write and offer criticism on a site such as Cal33 Apr 2014 #134

Yes the zombies will still vote. L0oniX Apr 2014 #136

Either Warren or Sanders for me. I have no interest in the others listed. NorthCarolina Apr 2014 #30

That's just how I feel. LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #31

The reality is that the voting system in the US is rigged on so many levels. NorthCarolina Apr 2014 #32

You're right; we don't have a democracy. LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #67

We have the best democracy money can buy. L0oniX Apr 2014 #75

either Howler Apr 2014 #33

Of those, Sanders bigwillq Apr 2014 #34

Do you honestly believe that Sanders can win a national election? brooklynite Apr 2014 #38

Yes bigwillq Apr 2014 #39

Obama never presented himself as a Socialist... brooklynite Apr 2014 #59

But still many thought that a one-term, Black Senator bigwillq Apr 2014 #74

I don't deny that a well-run campaign is important... brooklynite Apr 2014 #76

I did not provide a vote, as ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #35

Hard to vote for Warren since she doesn't want to run... brooklynite Apr 2014 #36

Yup. n/t GoCubsGo Apr 2014 #42

I'm appalled Manny isn't on the ballot.:) n/t malthaussen Apr 2014 #37

He was but I changed it ...and now back by popular demand. L0oniX Apr 2014 #43

Aw, I already voted. malthaussen Apr 2014 #45

Unlike using a Diebold voting machine ...you can change your vote here. L0oniX Apr 2014 #48

If those were the choices in the Democratic Primary, then Warren all the way. Iggo Apr 2014 #40

Either Warren or Sanders would be fine with me. LoisB Apr 2014 #41

Warren or Sanders pls LittleBlue Apr 2014 #47

Sanders and Warren would be a great ticket. Manny & Scuba a close second. Hillary..LOL. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #54

Well, they'd take Vermont, DC and Massachusetts... brooklynite Apr 2014 #60

I hope we find out. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #63

This tabbycat31 Apr 2014 #96

What are their objections? TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #99

'too liberal' tabbycat31 Apr 2014 #108

Why would they think that? Are there particular policies they can't swallow? TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #121

I'm sorry to say my Democratic voting sisters and brother, GOPee Apr 2014 #123

What does RomneyCare have to offer do with Warren or Sanders above any other Democrat? TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #124

Nothing directly GOPee Apr 2014 #125

They need to figure out what socialism is because being indentured to for profit corporations TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #138

Bottom line is they're not populists tabbycat31 Apr 2014 #139

I only vote for progressives betterdemsonly Apr 2014 #55

I chose Warren mvd Apr 2014 #56

Can't and wont get behind Hillary. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #64

Cound't too go with her! mylye2222 Apr 2014 #100

I am a Democrat and I vote for whoever wins the Dem Primary... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #66

LOL, how soon you forget Hillary at one point had a 27 point lead over Obama. You.... Logical Apr 2014 #77

So how does this effect the FACT that for now that is the truth? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #82

Like I said, she will find a way to make someone else look GREAT! nt Logical Apr 2014 #84

2014 is important ChangeUp106 Apr 2014 #80

You are STILL expecting a Miracle Worker....a Hero....a Messiah.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #83

How about Bernie Sanders with Warren as his running mate? Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #69

In the general election? The Democratic nominee, whoever that is. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #70

Can't vote Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #71

It's a tie between Warren and Sanders. intheflow Apr 2014 #72

I love Bernie stage left Apr 2014 #73

In a Perfect World ChangeUp106 Apr 2014 #79

I think Sherrod Brown makes the most sense and should be drafted. TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #87

I agree ...Warren would only take the party left to where it used to be ...pre Reagan. L0oniX Apr 2014 #94

This thread should have full participation. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #88

Warren is my first pick. Sanders is my second. K&R nt. Jasana Apr 2014 #91

Martin O'Mally mahina Apr 2014 #92

Warren with Sanders as VP running mate. mylye2222 Apr 2014 #93

Hillary Clinton is my current first choice. eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #95

warren, clinton, sanders, martin o'malley. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #97

I went for Sanders Spirochete Apr 2014 #98

I don't see a "any democratic candidate" button workinclasszero Apr 2014 #102

It's also missing an autolockstep button. L0oniX Apr 2014 #103

I can't make up my mind-- Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #104

Why do you think I didn't enter Skittles? L0oniX Apr 2014 #110

She'd really kick ass in the Primaries! Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #112

I would vote for Skittles! Marrah_G Apr 2014 #117

Everyone would. L0oniX Apr 2014 #118

First Choice Warren SteveG Apr 2014 #107

wow, an overwhelming Warren vote Hutzpa Apr 2014 #111

I've been told by a conservative DU member that this DU poll does not represent most Dems. L0oniX Apr 2014 #113

Regardless of what the ConservaDems may think Hutzpa Apr 2014 #114

Going with Liz since she has insider knowledge of how Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #119

where's the "all of them" option? i'd vote Bernie first, in a primary, but i don't think he'd make dionysus Apr 2014 #126

Only Sanders, Warren and George Clinton are worthy of my vote and support Exposethefrauds Apr 2014 #128

Assuming a primary vote. Warren = Third Way Udall. joshcryer Apr 2014 #129

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #135

Oh please, another poll on this issue? Beacool Apr 2014 #137

From a practical perspective loyalsister Apr 2014 #140