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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
7. the comments over at McClatchy are hot
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 10:44 PM
Apr 2014

A couple:

Roger H Werner · Top Commenter · President at Asi
Jesus H C! We've been here before. Many times. For those of you not old enough to recall, we had the U-2 denial. In the 1970s we had the the MKUltra Nightmare. Then the denials about assassinations and government destabilization programs. How many times I it going to take before our Congress, the so called house of the people, recognizes that entities created by a 1948 law don't believe they are answerable to anyone. Why is this story shocking or even surprising? It isn't. Anyone with anything more substantial than a pea brain and a memory longer than the last episode of the hottest reality TV program recognizes that NSA and CIA lie. They are organizations that lie routinely. In fact, lying has become so routine that it's no longer considered a factor in their decision-making process. It's time to terminate both of these organizations. If Congress had any cahones at all (*laughs*), they would call Bush, Cheney, and the rest of the scumbags that led us into our present nightmare are turn them into eunuchs. And when we're finished with our legal process anyone that violated international law should be sent to The World Court to be tried as war criminals. Until we are willing to apply the standards we are so willing to apply to other to our own people, then we stand for nothing. The US isn't qualified to be the world's policeman, we aren't qualified to monitor elections, kin fact we have no right to have a say in any matter concerning international justice because from where I'm sitting, what we're telling the world is that you have one standard of behavior but because we're Americans and everyone knows we're the good guys worldwide standards can't be applied to us. This demonstrable bullpucky. It's time our agencies be held accountable unless we wish to consider them as little better then the KGB or the Gestapo. As a culture and society, we've become experts at denial and we've been in denial for decades. We used the Commies as the boogieman to justify the awful things done before 1990. But then the Commies were gone. And not long after the Commies were dead then the perfect enemy appeared; an enemy that we can never kill, an enemy that we can construe to be everywhere at once. The result? What we're hearing about folks is the tip of the iceberg. Make no mistake, I don't have the slightest doubt that this pack of scumbags would make Americans disappear to keep themselves in business. We need spy agencies to be sure but they are agencies that don't have a long history of rogue behavior led by individuals who truly believe that they know what's best for us and that the democratic process is a hindrance to spying. I say end these agencies and start fresh.
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Kirk Fields · Follow · Top Commenter · San Antonio, Texas
Bush lied. Cheney lied. Rumsfeld lied. Hayden lied.Gonzalez lied. They all lied because they were committing war crimes, violations of International Treaties, and acts of barbarism that the United States has executed people for doing. They believed that in glorious victory it would be forgotten. They lied to all of us for the same reason other criminals lie, the guilt and fear of punishment. They tortured innocent people to death and now they hope and pray there is no God to have seen it

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This is precisely why America is too corrupt to join the ICC. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #1
To rejoin actually. War criminal Bush 'unsigned' us from the ICC shortly after being selected. nt Mnemosyne Apr 2014 #13
^ Wilms Apr 2014 #2
''The CIA misled the Bush White House…'' Sounds plausible. Let's ask Karen Kwiatkowski. Octafish Apr 2014 #3
he would only say, “Karen, we have sources that you don't have access to." kpete Apr 2014 #5
An offer he can't refuse. Octafish Apr 2014 #18
like in Syria! MisterP Apr 2014 #19
That entire situation Aerows Apr 2014 #29
why aren't there a thousand recs for this? grasswire Apr 2014 #4
Cats. Cats with opposable thumbs. Octafish Apr 2014 #11
People need to be imprisoned to show the world we don't condone this kind of treatment Auntie Bush Apr 2014 #6
the comments over at McClatchy are hot grasswire Apr 2014 #7
thanks grasswire kpete Apr 2014 #10
Outstanding comments. Octafish Apr 2014 #12
Upsetting and tragic words to consider. truedelphi Apr 2014 #30
the document is only two pages long grasswire Apr 2014 #8
Tip of the iceberg. Autumn Apr 2014 #9
Well, that was a quick and easy read. CJCRANE Apr 2014 #22
K&R DeSwiss Apr 2014 #14
MUST. blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #15
"more than one quarter of all footnotes in the 9/11 Report refer to CIA interrogations of al-Qaida" johnnyreb Apr 2014 #16
K&R Solly Mack Apr 2014 #17
Thank you Edward Snowden grasswire Apr 2014 #20
Interesting... nt CJCRANE Apr 2014 #21
kick nt grasswire Apr 2014 #23
The leaker "broke the law and should be prosecuted"? What about tblue37 Apr 2014 #24
Torture is a diract attack on our Constitution. grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #25
Friday night news dump? librechik Apr 2014 #26
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #27
this is probably some of what's left after the redacting--that part is librechik Apr 2014 #28
Shame on the leaker! Aerows Apr 2014 #31
CIA front companies and other black money support torture Ichingcarpenter Apr 2014 #32
K and R. I am so beyond outrage that I'm surprised any of it got leaked. bbgrunt Apr 2014 #33
''Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants.'' -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis Octafish Apr 2014 #34
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