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pipoman

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130. I agree

Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:36 PM

Apr 2014

I classify science into 1 . scientific common knowledge pretty well vetted 'fact', and 2. The best we have at this point

For the most part I put things in the 2nd category.

Back in 1968 my parents took my sister to a large, well known children's hospital with a 101 fever. She was treated in the emergency room with the best science of the day. Aspirin was administered, her "brain began swelling", she was dead 8 hours later. The medical examiner, the states official scientific expert on cause of death, stated undetermined viral infection caused cerebral edema resulting in massive organ failure.

Fast forward to 1984 when the FDA issued a bulletin about Reyes Syndrome.

Even in the op we have a statement apparently by a leading scientific expert which should be met with skepticism.

Righteous incredulity.

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! eShirl Apr 2014 #119

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