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bvar22

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130. #1 Snowden has released classified information ONLY to credible, established News Outlets...

Wed Mar 5, 2014, 08:24 PM

Mar 2014

Their Editorial Staffs have studied this information,
and decided WHAT to release through their outlets.
You can't indict Snowden without also indicting these News Organizations.

No one had documented ANY release of information directly to Foreign Governments.
If you have any documentation supporting the claim that Snowden gave classified information directly to foreighn governments,
please produce that documentation.

#2) Snowden released previously undisclosed information through the NY Times and Associated Press as recently as December, 2013, and he says he has much more.
I believe he does, or the USA wouldn't look like desperate Keystone Kops trying to catch him.

New documents released by Edward Snowden reveal NSA spying on online gamers
http://www.examiner.com/article/new-documents-released-by-edward-snowden-reveal-nsa-spying-on-online-gamers

So your claim that he serves only propaganda value is as BOGUS as the other claims you have made in this thread. If you are going to enter these discussions,
PLEASE do try to Keep Up.

#3)I fully support the slow trickle release of this information.
It gives the Media and the Citizens of the USA the time to explore and digest all the implications.
A full document dump at the start would already be Old News.

#4)Your "suspicions" and personal "opinions" are completely unsupported by the known facts.
Your unsupported "suspicions" bear NO weight in this discussion.
They have exactly the same weight as mussings from your imagination.
Your "suspicions" say more about YOU than they do about the outside World,
(That is WHY I don't post my embarrassing unconfirmed and unconfirmable "suspicions" at DU.)

I really don't care WHAT your "suspicions" are.
If you are going to enter into a discussion with me,
you had better have Documented Facts that support your "suspicions" at your finger tips,
otherwise, you are just Making Stuff Up.
You haven't sourced ANYTHING that supports your own, personal, imaginative, weightless "suspicions".

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Glenn Greenwald Praises Russia Today Anchor Who Spoke Out Against Invasion Of Ukraine [View all] WillyT Mar 2014 OP

And this 5 second moment will be used from now till the dawns of time snooper2 Mar 2014 #1

This "paragon" of journalism leftynyc Mar 2014 #80

His point is going to be lost on the twisty turny crowd, I think. sibelian Mar 2014 #2

Actually ProSense Mar 2014 #4

Exactly.... mimi85 Mar 2014 #33

Talk about twisty turny LiberalLovinLug Mar 2014 #46

Right On Cue! LondonReign2 Mar 2014 #68

"Very soon," indeed. nt woo me with science Mar 2014 #7

Whee! Check it out! sibelian Mar 2014 #95

7. he's also a dish-it-out-but-can't-take-it hypocrite Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #97

I'm not a fan of his AT ALL. sibelian Mar 2014 #105

K&R We don't have news and commentary. woo me with science Mar 2014 #3

"We have a propaganda machine." Unlike RT, right? ProSense Mar 2014 #5

Greenwald's having a fit over a Buzzfeed article... msanthrope Mar 2014 #27

Quite a few of those stories migrated here.... OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #30

He didn't do "everything" to slam Rachel Maddow. Hissyspit Mar 2014 #35

A hypocrite and an opportunist. ProSense Mar 2014 #43

How does praising someone critical of Russian policy equate to advancing Russian propaganda? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #92

You're ProSense Mar 2014 #93

So you are sticking up for the corporate media. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #101

Why is this a news story? Anyone who has watched RT knows that the opinions of all kinds of people sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #6

then why does greenwald think it was brave? arely staircase Mar 2014 #14

Maybe he doesn't watch it? We'll see if he's right, but she isn't the first to question sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #17

Agree, Sabrina. KoKo Mar 2014 #16

why does greenwald think it was brave? arely staircase Mar 2014 #20

She's a lunatic leftynyc Mar 2014 #81

Unless you are a Psychiatrist...I'll ignore that comment.... KoKo Mar 2014 #91

Yes, of course there were American TV Hosts who did that cali Mar 2014 #8

Amy Goodman is the host of an internet news channel. Not TV. nt adirondacker Mar 2014 #18

I believe she was on Air America back then. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2014 #23

She appears on my TV. BainsBane Mar 2014 #62

My bad. I was unaware she was ever on TV. I always watched via the internet. adirondacker Mar 2014 #79

No, it used to be on a cable station BainsBane Mar 2014 #84

Direct TV n/t reddread Mar 2014 #85

nope. wrong. she was on TV. I watched her. cali Mar 2014 #73

My apologies. I've lived in the woods too long :/ nt adirondacker Mar 2014 #77

You mean like Donohue, like this woman, a talk show host, and Maher and Ashley Banfield? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #19

Amy has been a guest on several MSMs ReRe Mar 2014 #64

Current wasn't part of our Corporate Media. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #89

dont sell short the interference and shut downs Pacifica experienced. Goodman was affected and left reddread Mar 2014 #26

Huh? ReRe Mar 2014 #72

got a shovel? reddread Mar 2014 #83

phil donahue reddread Mar 2014 #9

Now what? ReRe Mar 2014 #74

So what is Greenwald's personal viewpoint of the "incursion"? Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #10

Huh? Maedhros Mar 2014 #38

The Ukraine is only the biggest story in the world ATM Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #51

Nah, you're mudslinging.[n/t] Maedhros Mar 2014 #59

Call it what you want... Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #65

"He's praising a journalist for taking a risk and speaking out on an issue..." OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #54

I'm stunned ReRe Mar 2014 #70

I did no such thing. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #71

Belittle the American media? Nobody bothers to stoop that low. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #98

Attempting to belittle US Media? bvar22 Mar 2014 #99

To the three interlocutors above: OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #103

Yes you did. bvar22 Mar 2014 #106

Fuck Yeah! HangOnKids Mar 2014 #108

Are you incapable of embarrassment? OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #109

"No I didn't!!!!" bvar22 Mar 2014 #117

The U.S. media is the media in the U.S. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #119

Corpo media is dwarfed? HangOnKids Mar 2014 #124

Just how hard is it to READ something before you comment? OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #126

Sorry Sport HangOnKids Mar 2014 #127

If you are unaware that the "US Media" ... bvar22 Mar 2014 #125

I think that I can fit your understanding of the media on my rear bumper. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #128

I gave you a challenge: bvar22 Mar 2014 #129

He's not going to jeopardize his paycheck--which comes from the same place TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #88

"a paycheck from the same place as Snowden's? bvar22 Mar 2014 #100

Too many coincidences. Snowden is a spy, Greenwald is getting paid to TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #102

I think you're over-analyzing things. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #104

"Too many coincidences" bvar22 Mar 2014 #107

He sits in Russia and tells Americans how bad our government is, how we TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #120

Worth something to Russia???? bvar22 Mar 2014 #122

His NSA info was the primary item of value. But maybe that can only yield so much, and now he's TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #123

#1 Snowden has released classified information ONLY to credible, established News Outlets... bvar22 Mar 2014 #130

I don't doubt the outlets to which he releases the info-- TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #131

Again, you still you supplied NOTHING to support your "suspicions"... bvar22 Mar 2014 #132

Greenwald. LOL...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #11

"I will not be ignored!" Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #58

Link to The Intercept article (with updates). Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #12

Thank You For That !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #13

"both Donahue and Arnett were fired because of their opposition to the U.S. war." woo me with science Mar 2014 #15

Ah... the Greenwald 24-hour rule! OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #22

The Buzzfeed article is viral....this is Glenn's defense.... msanthrope Mar 2014 #29

He wasn't a journalist then. He wasn't even blogging. Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #56

Mea Culpa. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #60

11-13 years ago, Greenwald was probably still in high school, or college? n/t ReRe Mar 2014 #76

Nope. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #78

Do you know if anyone has questioned him on his occupation.... ReRe Mar 2014 #86

FTR, I don't have any problem with it. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #87

You have no problem with it HangOnKids Mar 2014 #110

I answered a question. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #111

We also don't know the ultimate fate of Abby Martin. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #34

But, but, but those boxes and the dancer!!!! nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #21

Abby Martin is a 9/11 denier!!! soundsgreat Mar 2014 #24

An odd question ... frazzled Mar 2014 #25

That doesn't fit Greenwald's narrative Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #31

I guess I'd go farther ... frazzled Mar 2014 #37

Greenwald does not write from a Libertarian perspective, at least from how you're using the term. Maedhros Mar 2014 #39

Go back to ... frazzled Mar 2014 #41

Go back to... Maedhros Mar 2014 #61

Greenwald has never been a 'proper' journalist Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #48

You summed it up quite well Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #52

Thanks for posting proof that Greenwald is going insane over a Buzzfeed article..... msanthrope Mar 2014 #28

Anybody anywhere who posts the slightest negative word Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #36

Oh...I wrote stuff he hasn't been able to debunk. It's been the basis msanthrope Mar 2014 #63

guess people forgot about the Russian TV guy who came out on the air dlwickham Mar 2014 #32

We're not supposed to remember that... Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #40

Very good point. And sadly, I had. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #53

NYT article on RT host Abby Martin ProSense Mar 2014 #66

His judgment about this invasion is much better! joshcryer Mar 2014 #42

Greenwald is full of ulterior motive. Here ProSense Mar 2014 #45

What has Obama done here worth criticizing? joshcryer Mar 2014 #49

Brazillian Glenn SoapBox Mar 2014 #44

Isn't it ironic that Greenwald gets attacked on DU for... bvar22 Mar 2014 #47

No, ProSense Mar 2014 #50

LOL. bvar22 Mar 2014 #90

The Dem Party Isn't writing Op-Ed's attacking their own Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #55

that's always the way they play history: Mexico's technocrats MisterP Mar 2014 #67

Ok GG DonCoquixote Mar 2014 #57

Honey, Disconnect the Phone!!! warrprayer Mar 2014 #69

there is still NO excuse for him or anyone else criticizing the policies of a Democratic president Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #75

+1 n/t reddread Mar 2014 #94

K&R ReRe Mar 2014 #82

He did? Cool but there has to be something bad about her. Autumn Mar 2014 #96

Does she date a pole dancer? QC Mar 2014 #112

Magic 8 Ball says, MOST LIKELY. Autumn Mar 2014 #113

I bet her garage is messy, too. n/t QC Mar 2014 #114

I asked. The damn thing is loaded with boxes and ballarinas. Autumn Mar 2014 #115

I bet there's a dancin' pole in there, too. QC Mar 2014 #116

A Russian poopiehead at that. I heard she has a thing Autumn Mar 2014 #118

I saw her pinching Putin's nipples once. n/t QC Mar 2014 #121