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Samantha

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20. Yes he is a brilliant politician and there is a certain nuance about his demeanor that is classy
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:56 PM
Jan 2014

And you are correct in saying he would not be where he is were that not true.

I am not so sure he is playing 11 dimensional chess. I think he has instinctive reactions as to what he wants to do, definite ideas about what he is not going to do, and many other things simply fall into the middle. In any one of these 3 postures -- yes, I can -- not going to happen -- well, maybe -- he makes incredibly delicate, smooth moves to always make his demeanor and actions spotlighted in the best possible framing. And setting a political trap from time to time is not beneath his dignity.

Although I don't agree with everything he has done, one unexpected thing he accomplished elicited a reaction from me I never would have expected (pure joy at listening to him announce bin Laden no longer walked on this earth), another position he took that surprised me was his dramatic move to the left in supporting gay marriage after so long taking such an obtuse stance on the matter, and another issue he embraced, offering the Chained CPI to Republicans in his original Grand Bargain literally infuriated me to the point I dropped some of the things I was doing to actively work against this proposal -- these 3 issues I use just as an example of Obama showing a capability and/or willingness to exit from Door #1, Door #2 or Door #3, whichever he perceives is the correct door for the issue of the day.

Thank you so much for your posts on this thread. You have really contributed some interesting points.

Sam

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Thanks. I like it. elleng Jan 2014 #1
The whole matter has been extremely puzzling, hasn't it? Samantha Jan 2014 #2
You're welcome, Sam, elleng Jan 2014 #3
Those are both 2naSalit Jan 2014 #4
This is the kind of response a person who sits up late at night to wrestle with issues Samantha Jan 2014 #6
Thanks for the complement. 2naSalit Jan 2014 #19
Thank you for your wonderful words but as it would happen Samantha Jan 2014 #22
OH 2naSalit Jan 2014 #23
I favor #1, but we will see. bemildred Jan 2014 #5
I love your word "ambiguity" Samantha Jan 2014 #7
There are tens and hundreds of thousands of people whose job it is to feed us bullshit. bemildred Jan 2014 #9
I have been there for a really, really long time Samantha Jan 2014 #16
The vast majority of the public can't play politics on that level Fumesucker Jan 2014 #8
Sadly, I have to agree with everything you say Samantha Jan 2014 #10
So if we like what he's doing, he's brilliant... polichick Jan 2014 #11
I don't think there's any question Obama is a brilliant politician Fumesucker Jan 2014 #12
Claiming EVERYTHING is "11 dimensional chess" is just flat-out silly. polichick Jan 2014 #13
We have no way of knowing what's what though Fumesucker Jan 2014 #14
It's our job as citizens to call bullshit - and unfortunately we have... polichick Jan 2014 #15
+1. bemildred Jan 2014 #17
And I suppose one point of the OP is... TroglodyteScholar Jan 2014 #32
Yes he is a brilliant politician and there is a certain nuance about his demeanor that is classy Samantha Jan 2014 #20
Just a step back in time for a moment... Samantha Jan 2014 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jan 2014 #27
Adoration worked against us Dems...even though we needed to give him KoKo Jan 2014 #28
Samantha...interesting points KoKo Jan 2014 #21
Thank you KoKo for your very thoughtful, informational post Samantha Jan 2014 #24
Ford Foundation. Where Tim Geithner's dad was Obama's mom's boss. El_Johns Jan 2014 #25
I did not know this Samantha Jan 2014 #26
I disagree Armstead Jan 2014 #29
That is certainly your prerogative Samantha Jan 2014 #30
obama may be trying to kill fast track forever by seeming to support it. BO is smart and has a poke kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #31
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