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2naSalit

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4. Those are both
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:53 AM
Jan 2014

truly insightful and interesting concepts.

I had considered elements of Scenario #1 from a number of angles and it left me grumbling about what travesties were allowed to pass into thefog of time considering what the previous admin. did to this country. And I could find validity in each aspect of my imaginings.

I had never really developed anything as advanced as your Scenario #2 though I had wondered at the connection with the players. Your thoughts make a lot of sense... the connection I was exploring was that Bill was the NAFTA guy and it would appear that he likes this bigger, better, new and improved version but I wasn't clear what he would get out of it. But you do make some really good points here, bravo!

I will admit that I was wondering whether the president was "playing" a tune by saying all he was at liberty to reveal while hoping that Congress and voters would reject it for perhaps different reasons respectively but that he would let the process kill it. I can't imagine that he would put us in that set of shackles and totally destroy our sovereignty like that. I always figured that someone had a figurative gun to his head from the corporate sector and that was the motivation for his seemingly positive stance on such an egregious heap of rubbish. He's allowed some really bad policy into the federal register that I am really upset with but this TPP thing is just way too much. I don't know if I could stay in this country if that became law. Don't know where I'd go but I think I would have to renounce my citizenship.

I need to ponder these ideas for a day or so now, new material and a new perspective to consider.

Thanks for the food for thought!

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Thanks. I like it. elleng Jan 2014 #1
The whole matter has been extremely puzzling, hasn't it? Samantha Jan 2014 #2
You're welcome, Sam, elleng Jan 2014 #3
Those are both 2naSalit Jan 2014 #4
This is the kind of response a person who sits up late at night to wrestle with issues Samantha Jan 2014 #6
Thanks for the complement. 2naSalit Jan 2014 #19
Thank you for your wonderful words but as it would happen Samantha Jan 2014 #22
OH 2naSalit Jan 2014 #23
I favor #1, but we will see. bemildred Jan 2014 #5
I love your word "ambiguity" Samantha Jan 2014 #7
There are tens and hundreds of thousands of people whose job it is to feed us bullshit. bemildred Jan 2014 #9
I have been there for a really, really long time Samantha Jan 2014 #16
The vast majority of the public can't play politics on that level Fumesucker Jan 2014 #8
Sadly, I have to agree with everything you say Samantha Jan 2014 #10
So if we like what he's doing, he's brilliant... polichick Jan 2014 #11
I don't think there's any question Obama is a brilliant politician Fumesucker Jan 2014 #12
Claiming EVERYTHING is "11 dimensional chess" is just flat-out silly. polichick Jan 2014 #13
We have no way of knowing what's what though Fumesucker Jan 2014 #14
It's our job as citizens to call bullshit - and unfortunately we have... polichick Jan 2014 #15
+1. bemildred Jan 2014 #17
And I suppose one point of the OP is... TroglodyteScholar Jan 2014 #32
Yes he is a brilliant politician and there is a certain nuance about his demeanor that is classy Samantha Jan 2014 #20
Just a step back in time for a moment... Samantha Jan 2014 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jan 2014 #27
Adoration worked against us Dems...even though we needed to give him KoKo Jan 2014 #28
Samantha...interesting points KoKo Jan 2014 #21
Thank you KoKo for your very thoughtful, informational post Samantha Jan 2014 #24
Ford Foundation. Where Tim Geithner's dad was Obama's mom's boss. El_Johns Jan 2014 #25
I did not know this Samantha Jan 2014 #26
I disagree Armstead Jan 2014 #29
That is certainly your prerogative Samantha Jan 2014 #30
obama may be trying to kill fast track forever by seeming to support it. BO is smart and has a poke kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #31
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