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Samantha

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Fri Jan 31, 2014, 12:51 AM Jan 2014

From Inside the Beltway: Don't listen to what I say - watch what I do [View all]

Last edited Fri Jan 31, 2014, 02:06 PM - Edit history (1)

Against my better judgment, I am going to make a few comments about the TPP and recent events. I have zero desire to get into any bitter battles over the literal truth of what is what. After all, we are in a political arena and the quest of discerning the truth about anything is often extremely difficult if not impossible.

President Obama is not stupid, so I do not believe he ever thought he could get Fast Track. Continuing down this thought train, why would he make seemingly positive remarks if it were not something he truly supported? Think about it. He is a Constitutional attorney, and he has to know the repercussions from implementing a piece of garbage such as this TPP Trade Agreement. Thus, we are back at the beginning, so why would he seemingly be pushing it? Perhaps because HE HAD TO - HE HAD NO POLITICAL AND/OR EXECUTIVE CHOICE.

So if either were the case, why would that be?

Scenario #1: The talks on this TPP started under George W. Bush*. There is a protocol long in place that when one is elected to the Presidency, important issues and events already in progress must be appropriately addressed. It is important that when a transfer of power happens at the Executive Level, that transfer does not create an instability in our institution. So imagine if this is the perspective from which we view this and a newly-elected President when learning of this monstrosity bluntly states he does not like the agreement and will be quashing it. One can easily predict all of the potential adverse repercussions from a move like that, so I will leave that statement as is.

Although the President of the United States, Barack Obama is also the infinite politician. His solution would be to play ball until he had to resolve the matter, and a great solution would be to allow the agreement to "die" a natural death. That is what Harry Reid is helping President Obama do.

This particular agreement may pull a "Lazarus" maneuver as time goes on, considering the level of support given to it by powerful corporations and some very wealthy players. But for now, the play is blocked! Hurray for the home team.

Scenario #2: Bill Clinton did an astounding amount of work to help Barack Obama get elected originally, and then to win re-election. I just assumed it was a down-payment toward President Obama reciprocating when Hillary ran in 2016. But considering the overall effort Bill Clinton exhibited (almost an overkill, really), I think there might have been another reason Clinton worked his posterior off for this man who had knocked his (Bill's) wife into a hairline-miss for the Oval Office: the Clinton Global Initiative. What a boon to that foundation should the TPP be implemented!

So after all that Bill Clinton did for Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012, how could the newly-minted President be perceived as not supporting the TPP?

I cannot say I have seen him do too much to promote this Frankenstein of a trade agreement. He has, however, put on a wonderful show.

Don't listen to what I say, watch what I do because it is all in the political game - perhaps that is the rule of thumb now worth politically pondering.

Thoughts?

Sam

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Thanks. I like it. elleng Jan 2014 #1
The whole matter has been extremely puzzling, hasn't it? Samantha Jan 2014 #2
You're welcome, Sam, elleng Jan 2014 #3
Those are both 2naSalit Jan 2014 #4
This is the kind of response a person who sits up late at night to wrestle with issues Samantha Jan 2014 #6
Thanks for the complement. 2naSalit Jan 2014 #19
Thank you for your wonderful words but as it would happen Samantha Jan 2014 #22
OH 2naSalit Jan 2014 #23
I favor #1, but we will see. bemildred Jan 2014 #5
I love your word "ambiguity" Samantha Jan 2014 #7
There are tens and hundreds of thousands of people whose job it is to feed us bullshit. bemildred Jan 2014 #9
I have been there for a really, really long time Samantha Jan 2014 #16
The vast majority of the public can't play politics on that level Fumesucker Jan 2014 #8
Sadly, I have to agree with everything you say Samantha Jan 2014 #10
So if we like what he's doing, he's brilliant... polichick Jan 2014 #11
I don't think there's any question Obama is a brilliant politician Fumesucker Jan 2014 #12
Claiming EVERYTHING is "11 dimensional chess" is just flat-out silly. polichick Jan 2014 #13
We have no way of knowing what's what though Fumesucker Jan 2014 #14
It's our job as citizens to call bullshit - and unfortunately we have... polichick Jan 2014 #15
+1. bemildred Jan 2014 #17
And I suppose one point of the OP is... TroglodyteScholar Jan 2014 #32
Yes he is a brilliant politician and there is a certain nuance about his demeanor that is classy Samantha Jan 2014 #20
Just a step back in time for a moment... Samantha Jan 2014 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jan 2014 #27
Adoration worked against us Dems...even though we needed to give him KoKo Jan 2014 #28
Samantha...interesting points KoKo Jan 2014 #21
Thank you KoKo for your very thoughtful, informational post Samantha Jan 2014 #24
Ford Foundation. Where Tim Geithner's dad was Obama's mom's boss. El_Johns Jan 2014 #25
I did not know this Samantha Jan 2014 #26
I disagree Armstead Jan 2014 #29
That is certainly your prerogative Samantha Jan 2014 #30
obama may be trying to kill fast track forever by seeming to support it. BO is smart and has a poke kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #31
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