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oldhippie

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317. Thanks to all for your thoughts

Thu Jan 2, 2014, 06:30 PM

Jan 2014

I'm pretty surprised by all the replies and discussion as to the question I mused about this morning. I didn't expect this amount of discussion.

Two things I find interesting:

1. As the poster dumbcat noted, there are a lot of replies with zero recs. I'm not sure what that means. Something to think about.

2. Unless I missed one, there have been no hides in this thread. I would like to think that is good, because the discussion remained civil. But I don't think it did remain civil (or at least as civil as I would prefer.) One poster in particular seems to want to dominate the discussion but not be told what to think. So I wonder if people are just burned out about alerting, or if maybe skinner's comments have caused some to think before hitting the alert button. I suppose it will not be possible to tell.

And I did not mean this topic to be meta. I had a question about how other people on the forum think about an issue. It wasn't supposed to be so much about how DU works, but how the people on DU think. I believe that is a legitimate question for General Discussion. And though there were actually very few replies to the original issue, the thread has been very illustrative of how other democrats think.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] oldhippie Jan 2014 OP

I wonder how many posters who say they are "not whining" Tanuki Jan 2014 #1

+ struggle4progress Jan 2014 #118

Unlike NSA spying or ACA, the gender issue is very personal and sometimes painful, and.... NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #2

Alert stalkers? NoOneMan Jan 2014 #3

That was absolutely ridiculous. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #6

Well that's another thing too. A DUer posts something and others come along and Cleita Jan 2014 #8

It certainly makes DU a hostile place NoOneMan Jan 2014 #12

Even if you avoid sarcasm and state what you mean in explicit terms Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #16

That is one of my biggest peeves. polly7 Jan 2014 #22

+1 zappaman Jan 2014 #204

If it weren't for that particular poster's history of tasteless, offensive "jokes" NuclearDem Jan 2014 #13

Still doesn't change the fact that context has meaning and words Cleita Jan 2014 #14

How is a pattern of behavior not context? Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #76

+1 xulamaude Jan 2014 #52

Just one of dozens of examples I've seen and received. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #18

Good and thoughtful post. Cleita Jan 2014 #4

Good! I was typing as fast as I could.... NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #5

Hidden posts does seem to be the object for some. RC Jan 2014 #7

Gosh,this thread sure went from innocent question sufrommich Jan 2014 #9

No one is bashing DUers. It's an honest discussion of the possibility of alert trolls. Cleita Jan 2014 #34

Post #7 takes the OP out of context and perverts it's meaning. sufrommich Jan 2014 #56

You don't have to wonder, do the math! snooper2 Jan 2014 #10

Doesn't matter. DU is so overrun by imbedded trolls, statistics would be meaningless. onehandle Jan 2014 #11

^^^THIS^^^ Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #36

You are not a troll, sockpuppet, stalker, nor a combination of the three. onehandle Jan 2014 #41

yes. - Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #43

There is a ton of bad faith alerting going on in those threads quinnox Jan 2014 #15

Alerts need to have user names attached to them. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #17

The admins know, so those who are playing games with the alerting can be found out quinnox Jan 2014 #19

What would you replace it with? Cleita Jan 2014 #21

Not sure - maybe bring back mods or, maybe a free for all quinnox Jan 2014 #23

I've participated in free for all boards and it ends up with all the Cleita Jan 2014 #29

I'm not sure. All I know is you are going to see a DU bloodbath with lots of duers frozen out quinnox Jan 2014 #47

I agree with that. Some of them are already arriving on this thread. n/t Cleita Jan 2014 #57

Skinner seems to disagree. FSogol Jan 2014 #229

That is fine, I respect his opinion. I think it will be interesting to watch and see what happens quinnox Jan 2014 #454

I've seen this as well Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2014 #157

To date, has this phenomemon of "alert-stalking" been confirmed? Orrex Jan 2014 #25

yep, I had it confirmed, personally quinnox Jan 2014 #27

How? Orrex Jan 2014 #28

Post 19 confirms it Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #33

Confirms it how? Orrex Jan 2014 #44

I think if a member constantly responds to your posts by attacking you and not or barely seaglass Jan 2014 #65

Fair enough, but simply replying does not constitute stalking, correct? Orrex Jan 2014 #183

I sure as shit hope you don't mean this one, pal. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #151

4-2. Some think 5-1 constitutes alert trolling Major Nikon Jan 2014 #233

"Some"? Really? Stay on topic. That post I was referring to was textbook disruption. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #234

So are a lot of the posts around here which don't get hidden Major Nikon Jan 2014 #243

In context as a reply to someone claiming to be a "victim"? No. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #248

Perhaps Major Nikon Jan 2014 #261

Skinner confirmed that there aren't as many alerts as you'd like to think. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #263

6:1 ratio on alerts vs hides Major Nikon Jan 2014 #271

ugh, really... look again "The alert stalking claim is bogus." PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #273

That's the post I was referring to Major Nikon Jan 2014 #278

You did? William769 Jan 2014 #196

It exists. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #96

That's anecdote. Orrex Jan 2014 #134

Yes it is anecdotal but I have gotten complaints. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #139

Here's a question: Orrex Jan 2014 #152

No. If a post is hidden it is because 4 to 6 people said hide it. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #189

We have received the official confirmation Orrex Jan 2014 #209

He knows more than I. I can only say what I get told and shown. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #218

Skinner's response on alert stalking: tammywammy Jan 2014 #158

Skinner is totally stalking me. Orrex Jan 2014 #173

ATA: Skinner: "The alert stalking claim is bogus." Cerridwen Jan 2014 #171

Don't put words in the Admins mouths. Skinner said it's bogus. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #162

More than that, there should be consequences for frivolous alerting. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #20

That could be something to think about. Cleita Jan 2014 #24

Same here, it has to be completely obvious for me to bother. OTOH, I've been on dozens of juries Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #31

How might we police "frivolous alerting?" Orrex Jan 2014 #51

Developing a system to find and track this behavior would be very simple. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #69

"this behavior" Orrex Jan 2014 #122

The admins can track alert stats. They've said multiple times there's no serial alerters. n/t tammywammy Jan 2014 #137

There already is jberryhill Jan 2014 #125

Well, that would seem to solve the problem entirely. Orrex Jan 2014 #143

One would think so jberryhill Jan 2014 #146

yep, or limit alerts to one a week or something, not unlimited quinnox Jan 2014 #26

+1 NoOneMan Jan 2014 #35

Jury members have the ability xulamaude Jan 2014 #60

Yes because some men presume to tell women how to feel about these issues... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #30

I see a lot of that as some men presuming to give opinions polly7 Jan 2014 #32

they ARE telling them how to feel...do not fool yourself into thinking otherwise... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #37

No worries, I'm no fool and have been discussing important issues such as polly7 Jan 2014 #50

then you should know better.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #72

Don't talk to me like I'm some kind of naive, innocent little child you're trying to polly7 Jan 2014 #231

then do not talk to me like I am one.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #232

I think if you'd take the time to read the responses of men polly7 Jan 2014 #236

I don't NEED to know what they think about my place in the world VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #239

We all live with some unfairness, in one form or another. polly7 Jan 2014 #245

THAT doesn't answer the question VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #247

Ok, well then, screw your question. You have no intention of actually hearing polly7 Jan 2014 #249

No I have no intention of listening to men tell me what it is like to be a woman.. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #252

You hear exactly what you want to hear. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #254

Do you expect African Americans to listen to White people tell them VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #258

Men don't tell women that here. polly7 Jan 2014 #260

OH YES they have.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #262

If opinions aren't allowed then keep it in HoF. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #266

are White people's opinions for African Americans allowed? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #269

Yes, anybody in GD is allowed to have an opinion. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #292

they can have those opinions on how it is to be an African American VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #295

They can have an opinion on those topics, yes. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #324

Yesterday right here on DU VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #327

Ok, I see what you mean. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #345

when you tell me that my reaction is "out of proportion" YES VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #357

Both men and women can overreact, it is a human quality not just female. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #369

But YOU as a White male do not get to decide for a Black person what is or isn't an VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #373

It's an over reaction in the opinion holder's opinion. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #422

You keep citing something that nobody has seen Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #326

It happened to ME... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #329

I haven't seen it. polly7 Jan 2014 #270

that could be your malfunction right there... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #272

I have a malfunction!?! polly7 Jan 2014 #274

apparently you do have one.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #275

No, I don't. polly7 Jan 2014 #277

Yeah actually you do... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #279

Well you know what you can do with your own 'malfunction'. polly7 Jan 2014 #281

My "malfunctions" weren't being questioned.. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #282

You spin more than my washing machine on laundry day. Try harder please. polly7 Jan 2014 #285

and you cannot answer a simple question VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #291

I'm a woman. polly7 Jan 2014 #297

So? What's your point? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #316

I guess it flew over your head. polly7 Jan 2014 #320

If there were one.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #361

Right...just in this thread... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #286

Awwwies. polly7 Jan 2014 #288

are you denying it? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #293

No, I'm not being victimized. polly7 Jan 2014 #298

YES Here! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #300

Ok, you win. This is a horrible, misogynistic site where women are not safe polly7 Jan 2014 #302

hyperbole much? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #304

That's exactly what you're implying. I agreed. We're good now. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #308

No I didn't "imply" anything... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #310

Really? polly7 Jan 2014 #315

I don't tell people how to "see" things... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #416

and as a matter of fact.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #309

I'm a Canadian. polly7 Jan 2014 #312

did I say that? No I didn't VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #314

You were bitching about me a Canadian here. polly7 Jan 2014 #318

No I wasn't VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #321

Ya you were bitching about it. Go alert. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #322

Nope...no curse words...no insults...that would be YOUR department. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #323

ALERT! Do something instead of constant complaining, ffs. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #328

I don't have to...I rarely do...why? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #330

Beyond boring. Sorry, I've had enough of you. Good luck with someone else. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #333

Yeah....that's what they always say.... when they are proven wrong.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #335

No, it's what 'I' say when I'm beyond bored. I don't see a reason to lie about being bored. polly7 Jan 2014 #340

Yes you can be bored...AND wrong at the same time.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #343

Not today though!!!! polly7 Jan 2014 #349

apparently so...you proclaimed it yourself. I didn't deem it appropriate VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #352

Polly's nationality has nothing to do with this... Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #348

I love you Violet. polly7 Jan 2014 #350

Right back at ya, polly! Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #351

Can you tell a woman in Darfur what it is like to be one there? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #355

Again, I haven't seen polly tell you what you feel as an American woman n/t Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #362

it has nothing to do with that...it was a analogy... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #363

What a freaking LIE that is!!!! polly7 Jan 2014 #370

NO I haven't .... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #371

You said 'I' told you men should be allowed to tell you what to think and feel as a woman. polly7 Jan 2014 #378

this is what you have been saying all along... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #380

No, that's a lie. An ugly one, too. polly7 Jan 2014 #383

the truth can be ugly polly VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #385

Your lies are the ugliest of the ugly. Believe me. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #389

that's like....your opinion man... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #394

Nah, your posts don't disappear because you want them to. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #395

NOR do yours.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #398

Thank god they don't. polly7 Jan 2014 #400

No you have not answered the questions I have asked all along VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #402

Sorry, asked and answered - twice. polly7 Jan 2014 #406

NO you didn't answer....you can lie about it all you want VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #407

Go back and READ. LOL! Good grief, like a freaking post! nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #409

been reading all along... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #410

birds of a feather and all that.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #358

Us DUers who aren't American women do tend to stick together! n/t Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #364

so? How does that change anything? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #366

I was responding to yr 'birds of a feather' line Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #372

but how does that have anything to do with the issue we are discussing VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #375

Women are women. polly7 Jan 2014 #376

baloney...being a woman doesn't mean you have cornered the market VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #382

Of course not. polly7 Jan 2014 #387

then why are men on DU allowed to? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #390

I don't bring it up to give myself props either ....... what a fucking piece of work you are. polly7 Jan 2014 #393

Yes you did as it wasn't relevant to this discussion at all? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #396

I've answered those questions twice already, as well as many others. polly7 Jan 2014 #399

No you haven't answered... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #404

Answered. Bored. Hungry. Not impressed by your fear of questions you find uncomfortable. polly7 Jan 2014 #408

afraid of you????? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #417

Deliberate denseness is also a bore. polly7 Jan 2014 #425

do what? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #430

Your FEAR. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #431

I have no fear...where on earth do you get the impression that I would VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #433

That's like three times you've tried to say that I said you had fear for me. polly7 Jan 2014 #436

You have accused me of being afraid of you several times VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #442

A LIE. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #445

No its not.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #447

NSS!!!!!! polly7 Jan 2014 #449

I am not afraid at all...YOU don't answer mine... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #450

You are ridiculous. Go stalk someone else, polly7 Jan 2014 #452

You keep replying to my posts...if you are sick then stop... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #456

I never said ANYTHING about women VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #443

'I' asked you about treatment of women. Three times. polly7 Jan 2014 #446

I am NOT afraid...I was NOT talking ABOUT women in this discussion VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #448

Well it's not just YOU in this conversation, IS IT? polly7 Jan 2014 #451

why don't you do the same...you keep finding other things to reply too... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #453

I was making a POINT VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #353

It's a flawed point... Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #360

No in fact it is not... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #368

Yeah, it looks like it is a flawed point... Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #374

YES she has.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #377

They didn't happen. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #379

actually that HAS been my point all along VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #420

Just on principle, after seeing how you lie and twist things, I probably shouldn't agree with polly7 Jan 2014 #426

please prove where I lied VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #435

READ your posts! polly7 Jan 2014 #437

I have read them ....I wrote them.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #439

Don't waste any more time with that one, VR. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #301

You are right Sheldon....they just REFUSE to see the forest for the trees... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #303

No use for what, to convince me that all polly7 Jan 2014 #306

I was told to "STFU" yesterday by men on DU... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #325

I hope you alerted. polly7 Jan 2014 #331

why should I? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #334

I would never tell you to STFU ... 1000words Jan 2014 #346

You are welcome...but my feelings are certainly not hurt! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #388

And now you've told polly and Violet to STFU. opiate69 Jan 2014 #411

Where did I say that? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #412

... opiate69 Jan 2014 #415

Holy cow you are toxic Egnever Jan 2014 #305

that's like... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #313

I second that opinion. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #359

Of course you do... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #381

Nobody should be called "toxic",nobody. sufrommich Jan 2014 #365

And alerts and hides are down on DU because everyone's behavior has gotten so positive! seaglass Jan 2014 #392

The cognitive dissonance displayed by sufrommich Jan 2014 #397

Well multiple juries have told me that calling someone toxic is not rude. So clearly you and I seaglass Jan 2014 #432

I third that opinion. BIG TIME. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #391

Of course you do...am I supposed to be surprised that you VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #414

Check out a mirror. Your outrage is transparent and phony. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #429

this is not my outraged look.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #434

Zzzzzzzzzzz ...... polly7 Jan 2014 #438

SOP when you have been beaten... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #441

Beaten at what, responding to your spin, twisting, deliberately lying about what I and others wrote, polly7 Jan 2014 #444

prove it...prove it...prove it... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #457

+ 1 Cleita Jan 2014 #38

So would you also +1 to allow White people to tell African Americans VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #240

So we are going to allow ALL opinions on DU now? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #39

What a horrible way to categorize progressives who choose to discuss something and may polly7 Jan 2014 #53

Its women's issues in the United States... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #62

"soft misogyny"? Cleita Jan 2014 #67

what? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #73

We did at one time and DU was a better place for it. Cleita Jan 2014 #54

should African Americans allow some "difference of opinion" about their rights and VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #66

Of course. Why don't you star a thread on it because it has nothing to Cleita Jan 2014 #68

Sure it does... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #71

Women's issues are more important in my eyes than yours which is why Cleita Jan 2014 #79

Obviously they are not.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #81

What do you mean by that? countryjake Jan 2014 #86

I don't presume to tell African Americans what is or isn't outrageous to them... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #90

Yet you do presume to tell Cleita that women's issues... countryjake Jan 2014 #97

I am only going by what I am seeing here.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #103

See this is so wrong. Cleita Jan 2014 #107

No its not.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #111

I don't let anyone presume to tell me HappyMe Jan 2014 #100

Me either! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #112

You "obviously" know so much about me. Cleita Jan 2014 #95

wow...so? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #98

You should be on your knees thanking every woman who got Cleita Jan 2014 #104

What makes YOU think I don't? Are you saying I am supposed to bow to you AUTHORITAY? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #105

Brava! countryjake Jan 2014 #102

Of course "jake" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #108

No one is talking about African Americans but you. Cleita Jan 2014 #115

I am making an analogy... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #119

It's a poor one and intellectually dishonest. Cleita Jan 2014 #138

How...explain HOW VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #264

why do you suggest because I have an opinion on this matter...that somehow I don't VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #123

I haven't told you a thing about how YOU should feel... countryjake Jan 2014 #136

the phrase is "despite" your face by the way... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #186

Bwahahahahahaha! I shall dig up my old dead mother... countryjake Jan 2014 #195

Oh no I am not...and it makes it mean something entirely different. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #200

Care to address what I said in the post where I used that adage? countryjake Jan 2014 #223

I have not "TOLD" you to wear man pants.. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #225

Why? countryjake Jan 2014 #226

Would it be okay for a White person to keep that information private VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #230

How do I know what you are? countryjake Jan 2014 #241

are you calling me a Rightwing Nut now too? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #246

So that is all that you got from my reply? countryjake Jan 2014 #257

No...I don't NEED your opinions about what it is like to be a woman..do African Americans VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #259

So building solidarity isn't important in the fight for women's rights? countryjake Jan 2014 #294

Being supportive doesn't mean you get to have opinions about what it is like.. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #296

Which brings us full circle in this whole tete a tete. countryjake Jan 2014 #307

Do African Americans? Do LGBT? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #418

So you were right about its meaning... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #237

It's "cutting off your nose to spite your face." DirkGently Jan 2014 #235

Wow. OilemFirchen Jan 2014 #367

'Cutting one's nose off *despite* one's face.' pacalo Jan 2014 #386

Thank you! Cleita Jan 2014 #110

"jake" doesn't get to have an opinion about what it is like to be a woman in America VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #113

Heh heh... countryjake Jan 2014 #124

You have no right to tell me what I should or shouldn't feel as a woman VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #126

^^^THIS^^^ Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #129

You are assuming "jake" is a man. Cleita Jan 2014 #156

what insults? Why is the truth an insult? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #168

Some of these folks remind me ultraradical campus Maoists. It's like a bad parody of feminism. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #131

Women hold up half the sky! countryjake Jan 2014 #145

While yet others accurately exemplify the League for Men's Rights LanternWaste Jan 2014 #154

a "parody of feminism"? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #169

No. No. Cleita Jan 2014 #174

No did you or did you not applaud my being called an "internet dictator"? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #177

But you didn't make the insult. Cleita Jan 2014 #184

No I didn't and NOW asking me if I am a Conservative.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #187

An alertable offense. Cleita Jan 2014 #206

Please do! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #210

Are you a conservative? You seem to be in high dander about the question. Cleita Jan 2014 #214

This question doesn't even deserve a response... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #220

by the way...was the word "comrade" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #193

comrade is complimentary from me but I never called you that. Cleita Jan 2014 #203

You applauded it...along with "Internet Dictator" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #207

and when did Social Democracy get confused with VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #197

I not against communism either like in kibbutz, communes or Cleita Jan 2014 #201

then why did you even bring them up? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #205

actually...that is EXACTLY what you are doing.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #179

This is what you are doing. Cleita Jan 2014 #198

All I have said is that Men don't get a pass when it comes to women's issues... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #202

Not fun is it when you get back some of your own. Cleita Jan 2014 #211

I don't know...how is that crow you are eating taste? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #213

Ah come on. Cleita Jan 2014 #217

I haven't changed my position.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #221

where is this "truth" you claim to have that didn't suit me? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #222

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #299

not just men. - Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #40

If you allow 2 women to say that...then those women SHOULD be dealt with accordingly. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #42

I dealt with it in the only way I know how to on this Site. I do not participate or engage either Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #45

You sure have some authoritarian views for a progressive. Cleita Jan 2014 #75

And who are you to judge who is or isn't a "progressive"? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #77

About the time you became the gender police. Cleita Jan 2014 #82

I am a female...that gives me an inside track...on what I should or shouldn't be outraged about. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #87

Then why did you bring it up if you don't feel adequate to put Cleita Jan 2014 #99

It's not a feeling...its knowing I don't... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #101

"señora commandant" xulamaude Jan 2014 #80

Really! Cleita Jan 2014 #89

LOL! "internet petty dictator." xulamaude Jan 2014 #92

do white people have a right to tell black people how they should feel? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #127

Good God! Squinch Jan 2014 #46

more like good gawdamn!! Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #48

Yes. Squinch Jan 2014 #55

this happened in The Lounge ... not that it excuses the behavior. Happened on or about June 2013. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #58

I hear about that, but I missed it. Squinch Jan 2014 #59

meh, I just considered the source and moved on but, sometimes it still rankles when discussions Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #63

What I have seen in the situation you describe, is someone posting an opinion a little different RC Jan 2014 #117

That's nice, dear. Squinch Jan 2014 #120

Have any other words of wisdom? RC Jan 2014 #133

Squinch, Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #141

I hope Squinch Jan 2014 #164

A. You have no idea who's alerting let sufrommich Jan 2014 #149

I don't need to know. RC Jan 2014 #167

You DO realize the validity of such an exercise... tkmorris Jan 2014 #153

I invite you to try the exercise yourself going forward. Squinch Jan 2014 #165

If men can't have an opinion on those issues, then why even post them in GD? Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #70

men should come to learn... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #74

Without participating in the discussion? Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #78

they should listen and learn not presume to say they "know what its like" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #84

Distilled down what you are saying is men should STFU. MicaelS Jan 2014 #135

When people whose race you don't share talk about their racial experiences, do Squinch Jan 2014 #180

when it comes to Women's rights issues....that they seem to think they VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #182

When ANYONE tells me to STFU, that is when I stop listening. MicaelS Jan 2014 #194

How unfortunate for you. Squinch Jan 2014 #199

No, not unfortunate at all. MicaelS Jan 2014 #212

Life is too rich to insist that you can't learn from what other have to tell you about their Squinch Jan 2014 #219

So let's turn this around. MicaelS Jan 2014 #224

Asking which issues isn't parsing. It's clarifying. So, which issues? Squinch Jan 2014 #228

^^^ THIS ^^^ VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #238

You really think you should tell men what they should do? tkmorris Jan 2014 #161

Do you really think you have more expertise in what it is to be a woman than a woman does? Squinch Jan 2014 #170

its also soft misogyny. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #250

Did I say I did? tkmorris Jan 2014 #251

You were responding to a post that said: Squinch Jan 2014 #287

+1 1000words Jan 2014 #216

"Why not start a Women's Group where these issues can be discussed without the opinions of men?" xulamaude Jan 2014 #88

Groups are protected. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #91

Not THAT protected. xulamaude Jan 2014 #106

Oh? Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #109

Yes, as far as I know, those who do not xulamaude Jan 2014 #114

There you go, sport. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #116

Sport?? xulamaude Jan 2014 #121

Are African Americans expected to do the same for Whites? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #128

I think that you are responding to the wrong person here... xulamaude Jan 2014 #130

no... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #132

The poster is gone. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #142

Good riddance pintobean Jan 2014 #159

I did not follow the poster but just wanted people to know. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #191

Whoot!!!! polly7 Jan 2014 #253

I really did not follow vthe poster so I do n8t know. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #255

He/she followed me with sneaky, snarky sh*. polly7 Jan 2014 #256

I saw some meber said something about someone named iverglas. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #337

I read that too, but have no idea who this poster was formerly. polly7 Jan 2014 #342

Why not? Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #140

Poster has been banned. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #192

Thanks. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #215

do you tell this to the LGBT community....that they should allow VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #94

Aaaaand I told you so- she's PPR'd LittleBlue Jan 2014 #190

They knew she was a zombie from the day she signed up BainsBane Jan 2014 #227

I'm here to learn as well as teach. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #150

Because 51% of the population is female. Do you feel that every topic that is posted on GD Squinch Jan 2014 #267

Oh, so discussion forums aren't meant for discussion. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #280

Not anymore .......... since META was taken away. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #283

If you are offended by these threads, why not just pass on by? Squinch Jan 2014 #311

Good for you. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #319

And you are allowed to post in anything you want to. But if you hate these threads so much, Squinch Jan 2014 #332

I don't hate those threads. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #336

Then pass them by. Squinch Jan 2014 #338

I will. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #344

"they" "them" lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #147

I do know . . . Brigid Jan 2014 #49

Me too. n/t Cleita Jan 2014 #61

Pretty much the same for me. HappyMe Jan 2014 #64

The trick is posting to avoid jury duty. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #244

Jan 6th is D-Day for GD for gender issues. Major Hogwash Jan 2014 #83

haha ... with what ... Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #144

Heh. +1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #242

There is a large amount of alerting on those threads. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #85

absolutely right Justin - hope all is well with you. n/t seaglass Jan 2014 #172

Not enough. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #93

amen. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #178

Skinner on alert stalking pintobean Jan 2014 #148

There's the proof Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #163

You make me laugh often pintobean Jan 2014 #166

Don't know, don't care. If you want to know, why not go a little ways back in the GD archives winter is coming Jan 2014 #155

Although I listen to the LGBT community... LanternWaste Jan 2014 #160

Of course. For any other group, I think all here would agree that to do anything Squinch Jan 2014 #175

Please stop A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #176

LanternWaste is like that. Squinch Jan 2014 #181

The making of the sense will only confuse many. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #185

As is being vividly illustrated right here in this thread. Squinch Jan 2014 #188

I am perfectly willing to blast my own gender HockeyMom Jan 2014 #208

Well, I've been hitting HIDE THREAD a lot lately, but I'm guessing that isn't what you mean. MADem Jan 2014 #265

Interesting that a post can get 250+ replies ... dumbcat Jan 2014 #268

A very little Little let us do, and all shall be done! LanternWaste Jan 2014 #276

It's Meta and a hit and run Meta at that.nt sufrommich Jan 2014 #284

Not enough if they are riding in the GD forum... eom Purveyor Jan 2014 #289

I haven't alerted on any post about gender issues. In_The_Wind Jan 2014 #290

Thanks to all for your thoughts oldhippie Jan 2014 #317

"one poster seems to want to dominate the discussion" sufrommich Jan 2014 #339

Yeah, ... oldhippie Jan 2014 #347

There was at least one (ridiculous) alert on a post in this thread. One of mine, in fact. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #341

I have no idea .... oldhippie Jan 2014 #354

The absurdity in that alert is way beyond ridiculous... countryjake Jan 2014 #356

I have no idea. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #384

There was another alert RainDog Jan 2014 #401

Yeah, juries are a real crapshoot in this place. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #403

Juror #2. sufrommich Jan 2014 #405

And Dear Juror #6: If you don't like venom, why didn't you vote to stop it? PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #413

I dont get it either. I take jury duty pretty seriously sufrommich Jan 2014 #419

I alerted on all 3 posts that called the poster toxic - the original, ComradeGrumpy's and Polly7's seaglass Jan 2014 #440

"Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #421

it's true. I often want to use that when called to adjudicate on a post in I/P. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #423

And the more I click around to investigate & clarify A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #424

Thank you for your service, Justice Schwarzenegger PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #427

All rise. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #428

If oldhippie were to self-delete this monster A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #455

I know I would. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #458

Damn, I think your are right ...... oldhippie Jan 2014 #459