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Divernan

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14. The world cannot afford to take a fatalistic view of this catastrophe.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 02:53 PM
Nov 2013

I agree that "Japan" (including the power execs, and the government) doesn't care what people posting on DU or in the States think about their problems. And I agree there is nothing "we" can do about the situation. However this is not a topic upon which we can afford to be fatalistic, because Fukushima is the canary in the international nuclear coal mine, so to speak.

The analysis here:
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/damian-carrington-blog/2013/sep/04/fukushima-farce-nuclear-industry-flaw
enables us to understand the dangers of nuclear power, and to pressure our government, and specifically President Obama, to stop pushing new nuclear power plants as the necessary answer to our power needs.

Supporters maintain that nuclear power offers affordable low-carbon electricity and is a vital tool in the fight to curb climate change. The UK government, already spending most of its energy budget on nuclear clean up, has crashed through deadline after deadline in a fruitless search to find anybody willing to build new nuclear power stations at reasonable cost.

The only serious players left in the game are those backed by the French, Chinese and Russian states, whose interest in power is as much political as electrical. Commercial companies have fled the scene.

The fundamental reason why the price of nuclear power climbs each day as surely as the rising sun is a straightforward one. Keeping a lid on costs is impossible if the task in hand is keeping the lid on an exploding atomic bomb. For that is what a nuclear reactor is, a slow motion detonation. That intrinsic danger means that as each new risk to reactors is discovered, more and more expensive measures need to be put in place as mitigation. When accidents happen, as they will over a half century or more of operation, the intrinsic risk of radioactive materials means more money is piled on the bonfire to ensure the risk to the public is limited.

The answer from the nuclear industry to all these criticisms is always the same: it will be different next time. But the rolling farce in Fukushima proves yet again the opposite. The only reliability the industry can offer is consistently breaking promises and busting budgets.

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Inexcuseable that there is no global invovlement. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2013 #1
Japan has rejected help then accepted help. Sending mixed signals. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #2
Well that is no longer true... Bennyboy Nov 2013 #52
U.S. nuclear plants also exceeding safety limits with spent fuel pools/fuel rods. Divernan Nov 2013 #3
+100 Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #4
Disgraceful that this thread is being ignored on DU Divernan Nov 2013 #5
It is sort of incredible isn't it? Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #6
well, maybe so justabob Nov 2013 #12
The world cannot afford to take a fatalistic view of this catastrophe. Divernan Nov 2013 #14
Obama continues to push for new nuclear plants without a solution to disposal of spent fuel rods. Divernan Nov 2013 #15
I get it, and I do not disagree justabob Nov 2013 #17
Fuku is ignored regularly nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #16
It is "ignored" regularly because of many reasons Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #19
I think there is ONE DU'er that I think is closer than you nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #20
I think I am the closest Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #22
I know, I tend to go to worst case scenarios nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #23
If something really bad happens, Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #26
In the recent past I have been pushing people to get a darn cute nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #28
Art is closer than me and he is right. Bonobo Nov 2013 #30
In the end hope is all there is left nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #31
Yeah, that's about it, Nadin. Bonobo Nov 2013 #33
And I worry about you like family! Generic Other Nov 2013 #39
Believe me, I'm no fan of nuclear power Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #42
No damage from the typhoon Generic Other Nov 2013 #46
I can understand that Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #47
Can you speak Japanese? Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #48
Perhaps it is being ignored... LouisvilleDem Nov 2013 #24
Good info, Katashi_itto. Efilroft Sul Nov 2013 #7
The zircalloy only ignites over a certain temperature in air. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #8
I posted that here too on multimedia Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #9
Yes it will heat up. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #11
Agree, that is the big "unknown" at least given TEPCO track record I would be highly worried about Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #13
K&R pa28 Nov 2013 #10
Effects of radiation CC22 Nov 2013 #18
I am totally completely 100 percent against using the splitting of atoms to boil water madokie Nov 2013 #36
What about in space travel? Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #43
I guess that would be fine with me as I don't see much of a down side to that madokie Nov 2013 #44
You realize solar energy is simply a method of collecting energy... Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #45
welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #40
k/r marmar Nov 2013 #21
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #25
What Divernan posted up above about the ever escalating cost of keeping nuclear safe... Benton D Struckcheon Nov 2013 #27
CROSS POSTED TO THE "fUKUSHIMA NEWS" THREAD... Bennyboy Nov 2013 #29
The big problem is that leaving the fuel rods where they are is not an option. longship Nov 2013 #32
Agree! Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #34
This is an important story. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #35
I think what significant is TEPCOs trying to mainly "go it alone" Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #37
Japanese people trust Japan with Japanese issues. Bonobo Nov 2013 #49
I've no problem with that under normal circumstances. But this is in a different sphere entirely. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #50
No longer true..... Bennyboy Nov 2013 #53
The inevitable consequence of nuclear power... 99Forever Nov 2013 #38
I know a bunch of Tea Partiers we could volunteer .... Myrina Nov 2013 #41
FUKUSHIMA: TEPCO, helped by the U.S., to remove nuclear fuel rods Bennyboy Nov 2013 #51
Not surprising, really LittleBlue Nov 2013 #54
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