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14. I kind of like the idea of using the Sept. 11 terrorism emergency

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Wed Oct 16, 2013, 09:49 AM

Oct 2013

the Republicans would richly deserve that.

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Declaration of a State of Emergency -- can President Obama issue one to prevent default? [View all] Samantha Oct 2013 OP

But isn't that what the Tea Party racists want to happen so their wet dreams of impeachment can diabeticman Oct 2013 #1

It could possibly be more than that Samantha Oct 2013 #3

Obama won't do anything without the blessings of the Congressional GOP. blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #2

Nope. This cuts to Constitutional powers. By that metric alone, the US House owns this. longship Oct 2013 #4

You do not think he has the power to declare a national emergency? (n/t) Samantha Oct 2013 #5

Well, that's arguable. longship Oct 2013 #6

I just was not sure if you had eliminated the premise of the thread by your response Samantha Oct 2013 #7

Well, impeachment is an important issue. longship Oct 2013 #10

That's the important question. longship Oct 2013 #8

The problem is that even if he declared an emergency and directed the Treasury pnwmom Oct 2013 #9

Even if that were to happen (and I did hear him discuss this) Samantha Oct 2013 #11

Yes. It could be his only option. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #12

I am going to save this research in case we need to look at it again Samantha Oct 2013 #13

I agree, the bottom line is the market uncertainty treestar Oct 2013 #15

He would not have to use the 14th amendment but he could if he chose to do so Samantha Oct 2013 #19

I kind of like the idea of using the Sept. 11 terrorism emergency treestar Oct 2013 #14

You and I are thinking the same thing Samantha Oct 2013 #18

It takes 2 to stalemate Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #21

What if one side is engaged in the same sort of activity that a declared enemy has perpetrated? Samantha Oct 2013 #26

How can it collapse the economy if the stalemate is lifted? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #29

I have no power in the US Government so that second sentence is ridiculous Samantha Oct 2013 #33

I think you understand well enough my intent with my second sentence. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #36

Under what conditions would the SOE be lifted? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #16

The terms for this are outlined in the Constitution Samantha Oct 2013 #17

So a president gets to unilaterally abrogate congessional power Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #20

It is not convenient at all -- it is the deliberate safety net built into our legal system Samantha Oct 2013 #22

We may be in a "Global War on Terror" (what a joke so-called "Progressives" now applaud this) Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #25

By the way, this is not a "scheme" Samantha Oct 2013 #27

"The National Emergencies Act requires the president to specify the provisions in the law" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #30

I covered that in the thread Samantha Oct 2013 #32

What underlying violation of law could occur by congress exercise its constitutional power? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #35

You are not discussing the true bigger picture -- that is what I am doing Samantha Oct 2013 #37

Your page is irrelevant, taken from a non-existent book. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #38

There is no trumping involved - the National Emergency Act does not violate the Constitution Samantha Oct 2013 #39

If we have to accrue new debt to pay old debt then we are bankrupt and the debt limit is irrelevant. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #40

Crime is your word - that is not the word I used Samantha Oct 2013 #41

Do you not think the President should abrograte congressional power when Samantha Oct 2013 #23

Simple answer -- NO Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #24

You exaggerate Samantha Oct 2013 #28

Congress didn't fail anything, anymore than the President failed to sign their bill. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #31

Congress' failure is a matter of continuing debate by the Constitutional experts Samantha Oct 2013 #34