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Soundman

(297 posts)
37. Pretty defensive I see,
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 04:35 PM
Jul 2013

Sorry this case upsets you so. I don't have a dog in this fight I am just looking for the truth.

Let me address your speculations because speculating is what you are doing for the most part.

What evidence did the prosecution present about the money?

He said that doesn't sound like me, not it wasn't me, why do have to make stuff up?

When I listen to myself it doesn't sound like me either. Oddly enough the today show had a segment on the very subject and they all agreed they do no sound like themselves, and all but Al said they couldn't stand to hear themselves. FYI I have a low baritone voice and I scream like a girl when startled, quite embarrassing for a 50 year old man, well it used to be, I have gotten over it.

I didn't realize you were a doctor that had personally examined Zimmerman, I will by all means defer you your qualified medical opinion. So where did you get your medical degree from?

The expert testified that Martin would have been able to walk and talk for a minimum of ten to 15 seconds, and as long as 1-3 minutes depending on his heart rate.

Please list the convictions of Zimmerman.

I didn't know that besides being a medical professional you were also personal friends with Travon, so just how much pot did he smoke? Did he let you handle his gun? Did he invite you to watch his fights?

There was some DNA. Just not on the front, in my world where reality reigns it would make sense that the person on top of another beating them would have little or no DNA on them. There was some on Martins back, also dovetailing with Zimmerman's statement of events.

All I hear from you is its possible this and it's possible that, and blah, blah, blah. Well I guess you can make up stories all you wish. And if you choose live in fantasy land that is your right.

The expert testified that the shot came from Zimmerman being on the bottom and Martin on top. He said no way were they standing, nor was Zimmerman on top.

The state has failed to make its case. End of story. We will now have to wait and see what the jury decides.

I said it before the trail and will say it again, no way is he guilty of 2nd degree murder. Involuntary manslaughter at the most. After watching the trail I don't think he is even guilty of that.

That's my opinion. I have no emotional involvement what so ever.

This case demonstrates exactly why we should not allow concealed carry, because this is what you get. I believe two people made several bad decisions that night that left one of them dead. Neither are innocent and neither are guilty.

Have a nice day, I will leave you to marinate.





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Quite plausible. There are other explanations leaving Z guilty, but that is a good one. Hoyt Jul 2013 #1
Not plausible, Soundman Jul 2013 #2
Lynching? That is exactly what bigot boy and his gun did. Hoyt Jul 2013 #3
+1 JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #18
Keep watching that 'trail'. louis-t Jul 2013 #4
Thanks for correcting my mistake, Soundman Jul 2013 #7
"These assholes always get away"; "Fucking punks" Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #9
I disagree Soundman Jul 2013 #12
Except he got out of the gun, armed, knowing police would be on their way. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #13
Again I disagree, Soundman Jul 2013 #14
"The more likely scenario here is Zimmerman saw Travon run and got out to see which way he ran" Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #36
My best guess Soundman Jul 2013 #40
If Zimmerman saw Trayvon run away, Zimmerman saw Trayvon was no longer a problem NoOneMan Jul 2013 #38
Amazing how you discount his story, which has some evidence, but stand by yours, with less evidence joeglow3 Jul 2013 #28
What evidence is there to suggest that Trayvon ambushed Zimmerman other than his own story? Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #30
The same as you have for your theory. joeglow3 Jul 2013 #46
While the state bears the ultimate burden of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.... Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #47
Based on what I have seen, there is dick for solid evidence from either side joeglow3 Jul 2013 #55
You can't even read a post and get it right. louis-t Jul 2013 #22
Pretty defensive I see, Soundman Jul 2013 #37
Ohhh, you soooo got me!1!!1 louis-t Jul 2013 #49
You are being dishonest. Soundman Jul 2013 #52
You are a waste of my time. louis-t Jul 2013 #61
Not quite, Soundman Jul 2013 #66
+1000 Vattel Jul 2013 #64
Oh, and I defy anyone to find the "bushes" louis-t Jul 2013 #25
That's me! Zimmerman is guilty and the State is doing it's best to deny this katmondoo Jul 2013 #31
Zimmerman doesn't have a "story" NoOneMan Jul 2013 #33
Why can't one remotely entertain the notion that Trayvon went back to confront Zimmerman? Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #8
Logic also dictates, Soundman Jul 2013 #16
Or you can hide out and wait until you believe the coast is clear. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #17
Logic dictates that if you're truly scared of someone, you don't go confronting them when cops are EOTE Jul 2013 #19
The gun he was carrying made him brave. louis-t Jul 2013 #24
um, GZ is no angel either NatBurner Jul 2013 #21
So, this proves Trayvon had a gun? louis-t Jul 2013 #23
Im confused how weed makes him not an angel NoOneMan Jul 2013 #26
You're conflating two different parts of the story. nyquil_man Jul 2013 #20
Do victims of lynching often get caught attempting to commit money-fraud? LanternWaste Jul 2013 #27
Why can't you entertain the notion that Zimmerman was going to rape Trayvon at gunpoint? NoOneMan Jul 2013 #35
Yeah, doulbing back with a bag of Skittles to take on the man with a gun? nt kelliekat44 Jul 2013 #44
I've wondered two things: dmr Jul 2013 #5
Why he would go all the way back up the path Lurks Often Jul 2013 #6
It's not clear where he stopped/slowed down once he reached the dog path. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #10
I agree neither of us know where Martin was on the path, Lurks Often Jul 2013 #11
Again, you're assuming he knew where he was going. louis-t Jul 2013 #50
Certainly Lurks Often Jul 2013 #51
Unless he saw the guy doing what he said he was doing and that is louis-t Jul 2013 #56
Possible Lurks Often Jul 2013 #59
That's what I think happened. yardwork Jul 2013 #15
Amen katmondoo Jul 2013 #34
I have seen hundreds of people looking for fights joeglow3 Jul 2013 #29
Fights right after they've been chased by a stranger for no known reason.... Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #32
I've seen a lot of people looking for fight myself NoOneMan Jul 2013 #39
So such a scenario as I've described would be pretty unusual and nonsensical, correct? nt Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #41
Of course NoOneMan Jul 2013 #42
Zooey sure gets around in that case Bodhi BloodWave Jul 2013 #43
Did you read I what I said? joeglow3 Jul 2013 #45
It's extremely unplausible, unlikely and illogical. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #48
Then you must not get out too much joeglow3 Jul 2013 #53
Did you follow them and chase them for reasons that would be unknown to them? Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #54
You just proved my point joeglow3 Jul 2013 #57
No I didn't. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #58
Because of the mere existence of person A. joeglow3 Jul 2013 #62
Go to a casino sometime. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #67
My current (totally unprovable) theory: Nevernose Jul 2013 #60
I doubt that Trayvon turned offensive. moondust Jul 2013 #63
I do not think that Zimmerman chased him down, Vattel Jul 2013 #65
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