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friendlyFRIEND

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6. Yes and no

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:40 PM

Jul 2013

If Martin thought that Z was a child abductor and grabbed a shovel out of a landscaping shed and bashed Z's brains in, killing him... he would have misjudged Z's intent and would be liable.

In the Z/TM case the only thing that matters to the verdict is if Z can prove he was being beaten and thought the next blow might incapacitate him or kill him. That's the way the LAW is written.

However... this should prove that states like my own, California... are correct in allowing nearly ZERO concealed/open firearms carry. If this incident happened in Santa Monica the police would have arrived to the two wrestling on the ground and would have broken up a fistfight. Liability to who was in the right/wrong would have been sorted out later.

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If someone were chasing me and trying to rape me [View all] gollygee Jul 2013 OP

Yes. NoOneMan Jul 2013 #1

Only if you are wearing a hoodie. yardwork Jul 2013 #2

It depends friendlyFRIEND Jul 2013 #3

So it would make a difference if I was wrong about the person's intent? gollygee Jul 2013 #4

Yes and no friendlyFRIEND Jul 2013 #6

In other words, OP is correct lolly Jul 2013 #12

No. He has no "right" to shoot you if he's losing the fight NickB79 Jul 2013 #19

No friendlyFRIEND Jul 2013 #20

Chasing you, or in the act of raping you? LittleBlue Jul 2013 #5

When we were followed in the subway HockeyMom Jul 2013 #7

No way LittleBlue Jul 2013 #8

How would you prove in court that the stalker / potential rapist said something threatening? Yavin4 Jul 2013 #15

And that's why Zimmerman will probably walk NickB79 Jul 2013 #18

This right here. NickB79 Jul 2013 #17

Threat is in the eye of the beholder HockeyMom Jul 2013 #21

No. And if you died it would be felony murder. rug Jul 2013 #9

Only if you are a black kid and the rapist is a 'creepy cracker' mwrguy Jul 2013 #10

I'd scream bloody murder Warpy Jul 2013 #11

Yes. Yavin4 Jul 2013 #13

The laws require that someone using lethal force in self defense not be engaging in illegal acts NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #16

Those 6 ft men ran HockeyMom Jul 2013 #22

Nope. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #14