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In reply to the discussion: "all men are potential rapists" [View all]undergroundpanther
(11,925 posts)but,how can a penis be constricted without something being put around the penis? and the penis exposed?
how would a man not notice a cock ring or rubber band moving onto his penis? and why wouldn't he notice it?
If I felt a touch any where in that area and I wasnt unconsious i'd notice it even with it covered in layers of clothing.
Why would he not notice he was being messed with?
If someone was touching him long enough to get him hard, why did he let the touch continue if he didn't consent to it,and if he felt the touch and didn't want it touched why didn't he take his penis and put it away? if he was passed out,how could he get hard,is that possible? I ask because I don't know.
I'm not talking about innocent girls and boys being raped by pedophile monsters,here.
I'm talking rape between non-consenting adults.
As for sadism, sadism is a fetish,a fetish has a sexual component to it.A sadist gets off on dominating and abusing people. So,if a sadist rapes with an object he still gets a reward,for doing it.
because if he did not desire to do such a thing why take such a risk if there was no reward in his mind for taking that risk.
apparently for some the risk of being a sexual offender is worth the reward.
How can we make the risk of doing rape not worth that reward to the rapist?
Ever hear of ahedonia? Ahedonia is when you feel no reward sensation,from your brain,or anything else. It is like being dead.If the desire does not exist to have sex the motive isn't there ,no motive no reason to do it.The reason to do it is it gives a reward. If there if no reward,there is no desire,no desire it is worthless actions.
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/special_reports/depression/anhedonia.htm
I struggle with ahedonia because of trauma,and I have gone years without wanting anything including sex because the sensation of reward in by brain was dead, and the sensation of pleasure was dead,so desire just didn't occur anymore. I had no desires because I felt like I was dead,the soul within was dead and life was a big blank..and so the motivation itself stopped.
Desire for reward be it biochemical,ego,money whatever is what motivates actions.
No reward, no desire,it is a dead end. That is why ahedonia is a dangerous thing to have,because you begin to ask why be alive if you feel nothing and all is dead inside why be here.If things that gave you pleasure cannot do that anymore it is terrible,Like existance itself is dead end.
So I question in this debate what or where desire and pleasure motives are because if ambivalence is too strong, you might not get hard or you might get hard, but you don't know what you want,you go along,because desire is absent to act against the situation . If you regret it later,or didn't care than it is a result of not making desire known or caring..,.Remember no one can read anothers mind..so how much is about ambivalence and later regret.And was it rape? How did you not feel nothing touching your penis ,how did you not notice it being taken out of your pants,underwear etc.and how could a man let it be taken into anothers hand, touched until hard enough to have a rubber band or cock ring placed on it and kept hard until it was too late to stop her from climbing on top or inserting it? I ask because I don't understand how.
Now if the guy is wheelchair bound or has no way to communicate and a woman or man doing that to a guy that has no control or consent,he is a rape victim and the woman ,IS by definition a rapist.
Very few women are rapists.But A few do exist apparently in certain circumstances that may make ot possible,and I hate the female rapist too.Because I hate rapists.
There are many more male rapists. Enough among humanity to make 1 in 4 girls be raped before age 18. and a lot of boys get raped ,and men too. Most rape is done by adult men. So where do the majority of rapes come from,...they are done mostly by men.That is a fact.
And regardless every man because he has a penis is still a potential rapist.
You can't be so oblivious when someone touches you down there,ever watch a nut shot on TV and cringe..
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