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HiPointDem

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24. i already saw it & have no idea why you think that's decisive. I don't know what the truth of
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 04:41 AM
Mar 2013

the matter is but that excerpt in and of itself proves nothing to me.

Bergoglio twice invoked his right under Argentine law to refuse to appear in open court. When he eventually did testify in 2010, his answers were evasive, human rights attorney Myriam Bregman said.

At least two cases directly involved Bergoglio, who ran Argentina's Jesuit order during the dictatorship.

One examined the torture of two of his Jesuit priests — Orlando Yorio and Francisco Jalics — who were kidnapped in 1976 from the slums where they advocated liberation theology, which is the belief that Jesus Christ's teachings justify fights against social injustices.

Yorio accused Bergoglio of effectively handing them over to the death squads by declining to tell the regime that he endorsed their work. Jalics refused to discuss it after moving into seclusion in a German monastery.

Both men were freed after Bergoglio took extraordinary, behind-the-scenes action to save them, including persuading dictator Jorge Videla's family priest to call in sick so that Bergoglio could say Mass in the junta leader's home, where he privately appealed for mercy. His intervention likely saved their lives, but Bergoglio never shared the details until Rubin interviewed him for the 2010 biography.

Bergoglio told Rubin that he regularly hid people on church property during the dictatorship, and once gave his identity papers to a man with similar features, enabling him to escape across the border. But all this was done in secret, at a time when church leaders publicly endorsed the junta and called on Catholics to restore their "love for country" despite the terror in the streets.

But rights attorney Bregman said Bergoglio's own statements proved church officials knew from early on that the junta was torturing and killing its citizens, and yet publicly endorsed the dictators.

"The dictatorship could not have operated this way without this key support," she said.

Bergoglio also was accused of turning his back on a family that lost five relatives to state terror, including a young woman who was five months' pregnant before she was kidnapped and killed in 1977. The De la Cuadra family appealed to the leader of the Jesuits in Rome, who urged Bergoglio to help them; Bergoglio then assigned a monsignor to the case. Months passed before the monsignor came back with a written note from a colonel: The woman had given birth in captivity to a girl who was given to a family "too important" for the adoption to be reversed.

Despite this written evidence in a case he was personally involved with, Bergoglio testified in 2010 that he didn't know about any stolen babies until well after the dictatorship was over.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/francis-first-pope-americas

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Ok. Lets take this to the edge RobertEarl Mar 2013 #1
I knew it, I knew it, I knew it...the nazi angle would come into play sooner or later! Purveyor Mar 2013 #2
No Nazis in Argentina? RobertEarl Mar 2013 #3
As I suggested...only a matter of time and 'you people' didn't disappoint. Carry on. eom Purveyor Mar 2013 #8
Thanks for showing your true colors. Zoeisright Mar 2013 #12
Michael moore amuse bouche Mar 2013 #13
This is just too easy.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #4
And the new Pope is involved in this, of course? eom Purveyor Mar 2013 #9
Don't act ignorant. It's unbecoming of a DU poster. nt. OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #11
I see ignorant statements every day No Vested Interest Mar 2013 #16
Let me see - both parents are Italian and they arrived in Argentina in 1930 malaise Mar 2013 #29
How about some arithmetic? WWII ended in 1945, so any adult WWII Nazi was born in 1927 or earlier. struggle4progress Mar 2013 #10
Political clout is usually directly influenced by personal wealth and not so much by age.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #30
Facts matter. Parry quotes O'Shaughnessy in the Guardian attributing the following claim struggle4progress Mar 2013 #5
You realize he never mentioned that Bergoglio was the Archbishop, right? Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #6
He says "with the connivance of Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, now the Jesuit archbishop of Buenos Aires" struggle4progress Mar 2013 #7
When her wrote that Bergoglio was already the Cardinal. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #14
I found an article by Verbitsky, making the claim: struggle4progress Mar 2013 #17
Bergoglio is of Italian descent. He became a priest in 1969. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #15
I found an article by Verbitsky, making the claim: struggle4progress Mar 2013 #18
Thanks. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #23
The 2005 case was reportedly filed eight years ago: that should have been enough time struggle4progress Mar 2013 #19
Yes. It may have been unfounded. People can file any kind of a case. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #22
i think (though it's not completely clear) they use bergoglio's title as 'cardinal' because he was HiPointDem Mar 2013 #20
See my #17 struggle4progress Mar 2013 #21
i already saw it & have no idea why you think that's decisive. I don't know what the truth of HiPointDem Mar 2013 #24
OK. Here it is, once more, slowly and in small bits: struggle4progress Mar 2013 #25
I can't even parse that passage in Parry's article, but the claims in that article don't seem to HiPointDem Mar 2013 #26
O'Shaughnessy's garbled syntax there strongly suggests that he grabbed some Spanish text, struggle4progress Mar 2013 #27
Here's a synopsis of the book from a bookseller: struggle4progress Mar 2013 #28
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