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In reply to the discussion: Salon: The “original sin” of the Southern political class is cheap, powerless labor [View all]HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)8. what?
Northernomics is the high-road strategy of building a flourishing national economy by means of government-business cooperation and government investment in R&D, infrastructure and education.
bull.
1. Northern industry was built on the profits of slave labor. Slaves were used in the North to clear land, harvest crops, run the sugar business, etc. Northerners were the slave catchers and traders, the cotton brokers, and the financiers. They outlawed slavery in the North once they'd made a bundle and were moving into industry, but lots of Northerners were 'invested' in, or *owned* the slave labor sugar plantations of the Caribbean or profited off Southern slavery in various ways.
2. Northern industry was built on slave-like labor, e.g.:

The conditions that children worked under during the Industrial Revolution were morbid. They had long and inflexible work hours. According to many studies, these hours ranged from 14 hours a day or 70 hours per week. The child laborers worked in environments that were unhealthy and dangerous to their physical well being. Many lost limbs, were killed in gas explosions; crushed under machines; and burned. The workers developed lung cancer from poisonous fumes. When their work or machines were not harming them, their supervisors and overseers harmed them. They were beaten, and when they tried to escape from the factories, they were shackled.
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/~hicks22a/classweb/Childlabor/WebsiteChildlabor/History.html
3. Even today, the first-world profits of the "North" relies on slave-like labor both at home and overseas.
4. Scratch any big capitalist dynasty of the present day & you will find the exploitation of slave labor lurking somewhere in the family history.
"Behind every great fortune is a crime."
bull.
1. Northern industry was built on the profits of slave labor. Slaves were used in the North to clear land, harvest crops, run the sugar business, etc. Northerners were the slave catchers and traders, the cotton brokers, and the financiers. They outlawed slavery in the North once they'd made a bundle and were moving into industry, but lots of Northerners were 'invested' in, or *owned* the slave labor sugar plantations of the Caribbean or profited off Southern slavery in various ways.
2. Northern industry was built on slave-like labor, e.g.:

The conditions that children worked under during the Industrial Revolution were morbid. They had long and inflexible work hours. According to many studies, these hours ranged from 14 hours a day or 70 hours per week. The child laborers worked in environments that were unhealthy and dangerous to their physical well being. Many lost limbs, were killed in gas explosions; crushed under machines; and burned. The workers developed lung cancer from poisonous fumes. When their work or machines were not harming them, their supervisors and overseers harmed them. They were beaten, and when they tried to escape from the factories, they were shackled.
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/~hicks22a/classweb/Childlabor/WebsiteChildlabor/History.html
3. Even today, the first-world profits of the "North" relies on slave-like labor both at home and overseas.
4. Scratch any big capitalist dynasty of the present day & you will find the exploitation of slave labor lurking somewhere in the family history.
"Behind every great fortune is a crime."
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Salon: The “original sin” of the Southern political class is cheap, powerless labor [View all]
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
Feb 2013
OP
It is no coincidence that the South had the lowest percentage of union representation.
alarimer
Feb 2013
#7
Funny thing is the article you link to doesn't support what you wrote.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
Feb 2013
#9
child labor wasn't any better in the us than in england, and everything i wrote is true.
HiPointDem
Feb 2013
#11
lol. you don't know your history. 'revisionist' is people who pretend slavery = only the south.
HiPointDem
Feb 2013
#13
dude, you can start your education with the link in the post you just responded to. here it is
HiPointDem
Feb 2013
#15
Thank you! You are absolutely correct. It's remarkable how many people just don't know.....
OldDem2012
Feb 2013
#21
link looks interesting; thanks! real american history is way more interesting and educational
HiPointDem
Feb 2013
#25
I tell that to my two kids every time they have a test in what they now call "Social Studies"....
OldDem2012
Feb 2013
#29
you seem to think my point is "the north had slaves too." but my point is that slave-trade
HiPointDem
Feb 2013
#40
And Snyder & gang is trying to bring that model to MI. I can see the "Pure Michigan"
catbyte
Feb 2013
#10
There was an interesting AlterNet article on a similar subject back in June 2012
LongTomH
Feb 2013
#23
the reforms came largely because 1) elite northern abolitionists had already made their nut &
HiPointDem
Feb 2013
#27
Not much has changed when you think about it, they're still using race as class divider
SpartanDem
Feb 2013
#36