Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

paleotn

(22,808 posts)
16. Agreed. It's simply biology not ageism.
Mon May 25, 2026, 11:05 AM
Monday

But there's more. One thought on reading your post. It's kind of an extension of Jefferson's idea that the earth belongs exclusively to the living and the dead have no powers or rights over it. From Jefferson's letter to Madison in 1789.

Now, granted, those in their 80's aren't dead yet, but legislation passed by the McConnell's, Grassley's and even Bernie's of the US Congress, even worse, SCOTUS decisions, have multi generational impacts, and as we've seen, can be damn difficult reverse. The rub being, none of those people will live to see the full repercussions.

If you're 80 you have maybe a decade to a decade and a half left. People in their 30's have 5 to 6 TIMES longer to live with those repercussions. Should they not have the greater say in the matter? Madison responded to Jefferson that predecessors leave a valuable legacy. But not always. Some things are universal truths and span generations, but many things do not. They based their decisions on the world they lived in that may not fully exist anymore. Even while they're still alive.

Obviously there's the argument of experience. I'm approaching mid 60's, and professionally, when it comes to decision making, I'm better than my much younger colleagues. Ironically, faster. Simply because I've been there before. But even if I haven't been exactly there, I still have a good feel for the pitfalls. Similar things that didn't work and why they didn't work. Then again, I've got maybe half a decade left before retirement, maybe more. Those younger colleagues may have to live with the mistakes made by guys like me who've sailed off into retirement. Decisions that made sense at the time but no longer do. Maybe my experience just wasn't valid anymore in an economic environment that's changed drastically since I had a full head of hair.

Not only is there a physical dimension. We may not fully understand the world younger generations live in. Humans are stubborn creatures who don't like change. But reality doesn't care. It keeps changing.

Short answer, yes, there should be age limits. Revised on occasion as human longevity changes. And younger members should have far more say than they have now. They're the one's who are going to have to live with these decisions long after we're gone.

https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/mss/mtj/mtj1/011/011_0912_0958.pdf



Recommendations

6 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

i'm almost there rampartd Monday #1
Yet some perform well into their 90s bucolic_frolic Monday #2
I'm sure the stress of the job may also take a toll... kentuck Monday #3
Agree, it takes order and mental discipline for longevity in positions of power or responsibility bucolic_frolic Monday #4
I've always said NJCher Monday #6
Yes, I've often envisioned him without money PatSeg Monday #13
Someone else has envisioned Trump without money DBoon Monday #32
Oh yeah, that would work! PatSeg Tuesday #35
Back in 2015 someone made a youtube of Trump if he were born without $$ IrishAfricanAmerican Monday #17
Ronald Reagan did not find it stressful at all. delisen Monday #10
JFK became a Senator at the age of 36 Kaleva Monday #12
It's one thing to be able to discuss complexities at age 80. NH Ethylene Monday #27
There should be age limits for members of Congress as well. ProudMNDemocrat Monday #5
I have no problem with older representatives. delisen Monday #8
It is ageism. delisen Monday #7
That's very true. NH Ethylene Monday #29
It is demanding for anyone--especially one not physically and mentally fit... hlthe2b Monday #9
Commercial airline pilots have to retire at 65 Grim Chieftain Monday #11
I'll turn 80 next year... GiqueCee Monday #14
*SNORT* Skittles Monday #26
Bingo... GiqueCee Tuesday #34
How many 80 year olds do you see daily delisen Monday #15
Agreed. It's simply biology not ageism. paleotn Monday #16
I agree with the premise of your post. Tom Rinaldo Monday #21
I feel the same.... paleotn Monday #24
It's never ideal. Energy levels decline at the very least. A few can pull it off though and wisdom helps Tom Rinaldo Monday #18
A 92 year old (Grassley) is fourth in line for the presidency question everything Monday #19
If an existential emergency breaks out during nap time... Swede Monday #20
I go exclusively by quality gulliver Monday #22
Trump has always been mentally and morally unfit. Regarding ageism... Martin Eden Monday #23
Yes, in many, if not most, cases. I will never vote for an 80+ yo in a POTUS primary. Celerity Monday #25
Trump earlier thought that 80 was too old. Then he changed his mind when Biden dropped out. Norrrm Monday #28
I don't know about this. Morbius Monday #30
It is not ageist say that Inkey Monday #31
When you start talking about standing in the water with a battery Submariner Monday #33
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»80 years old is too old t...»Reply #16