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CrispyQ

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102. To me, "rigging" implies messing with the vote count, not spreading/targeting ads/propaganda/lies.

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Wed May 20, 2026, 02:31 PM

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People need to sharpen up & not be so easily influenced. They need to be their own influencer.

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Elon Musk's Ex, Ashley St. Clair, Confirms He Rigged the 2024 Election [View all] liberalla Tuesday OP

Another lie from this substack EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #1

So, you're saying conclusively DV1 Tuesday #4

Based on all the available evidence no it wasn't EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #7

So your asking them to prove a negative? paleotn Tuesday #15

This. Straight generic nonpartisan logic. Permanut 22 hrs ago #77

I so wish it were Miguelito Loveless Tuesday #28

They seem to throw around the word "rigged" a lot to garner attention ToxMarz Tuesday #11

That's a really weird miss-statement of what Cambridge Analytica did. Scrivener7 Tuesday #57

No it isn't EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #60

Yes it is. Scrivener7 Tuesday #62

Nothing in there about changing cast votes EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #63

Your argument was that all they did was "persuade people to vote for Trump." Scrivener7 Tuesday #64

To me, "rigging" implies messing with the vote count, not spreading/targeting ads/propaganda/lies. CrispyQ 10 hrs ago #102

I'm not sure who among us could withstand it if we were selected without our permission Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #103

I don't know anything about psy-ops CrispyQ 9 hrs ago #107

They also targeted Bernie supporters and weak Democrats to cement their decisions not to vote for Hillary. Scrivener7 7 hrs ago #114

Two can play that game...if we would. Why don't we? -nt CrispyQ 6 hrs ago #116

Because Zuckerberg allowed them access to every American Facebook account, but he Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #119

Who claimed votes were changed? live love laugh 15 hrs ago #79

That's what the people claiming the original video was proving when they say righed EdmondDantes_ 12 hrs ago #86

Trump and Musk already admitted so this is conformation. Blue Full Moon Tuesday #66

And trump telling his audiences that they didn't need to show up to vote? BComplex 15 hrs ago #78

It's complicated, but first tRUMP is a moron who says all kinds of stupid crap to mess with people LymphocyteLover 10 hrs ago #98

Yes. ALSO promoting the rigged election idea is a way to make voters apathetic because they think LymphocyteLover 11 hrs ago #97

Obama said, " We have to come out in numbers so big, there's no doubt " questionseverything 10 hrs ago #104

Conspiracy theories targeting MAGA is perfect Johonny Tuesday #2

BlueAnon RetiredParatrooper Tuesday #3

American citizens overseeing their own vote count is what the founders questionseverything Tuesday #51

Ah yes - the "swarm". yellow dahlia 12 hrs ago #84

Bull. Lies. Nonsense. Please delete. mr715 Tuesday #5

Yeah, how dare anyone think Trump & Co would do something underhanded! 31st Street Bridge Tuesday #52

Implicitly accusing both Biden and Harris of ineptitude and/or malevolence mr715 Tuesday #54

No one is accusing Biden or Harris of anything. yellow dahlia 12 hrs ago #85

Because it's the logical conclusion from the election was stolen EdmondDantes_ 3 hrs ago #120

Your logic is not rigorous. yellow dahlia 3 hrs ago #121

And yet you didn't offer any other conclusions EdmondDantes_ 1 hr ago #123

I made my conclusions in my previous comments. yellow dahlia 1 hr ago #124

Dems/some group need to subpoena her and obtain a bench warrant for all the real time texts she got from Musk. ancianita Tuesday #6

AND an order to take custody of all the ballots in all of the voting locations that showed the vote-flipping pattern. Bluetus Tuesday #37

K & R bookmarking FakeNoose Tuesday #8

Don't be gullible. This is how THEY act when THEY lose. FascismIsDeath Tuesday #9

More bullshit for This Will Hold Wiz Imp Tuesday #10

AMEN! ancianita Tuesday #17

I'm Certain This Is Accurate ProfessorGAC Tuesday #12

And the other half is not suprised. ananda Tuesday #13

The addiction to these conspiracy theories is really quite pathetic. tritsofme Tuesday #14

Conspiracy 'theories" can become investigations, which can then become allegations, and/or filed charges. There is ancianita Tuesday #18

Believing a theory a priori because it makes you feel good mr715 Tuesday #19

It isn't just the believing that makes them so. Belief based on what's probable can, through effort, change a "theory', ancianita Tuesday #25

I guess I distinguish between "belief" and "believing" mr715 Tuesday #31

I can't speak for anyone else, but nothing about this scenario makes me feel good. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #87

And what's the difference given those both have the same corroboration? EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #23

I hear you. ancianita Tuesday #27

The Starlink Conspiracy Theory was debunked long ago Wiz Imp Tuesday #49

The people who continue to deny this operation occurred have no clue about the technical issues involved Bluetus Tuesday #40

Musk's Starlink Was Not Connected to Vote Tabulation Wiz Imp Tuesday #47

Jeeze, not this shit again. Starlink is just an ISP.... reACTIONary 14 hrs ago #81

Incorrect. ancianita 9 hrs ago #110

Jeeze, not this bullshit again redux.... reACTIONary 7 hrs ago #115

Sure, it's not like the government is hiding flying saucers from the public. Kid Berwyn Tuesday #21

It is discouraging that so many people here are in such deep denial Bluetus Tuesday #43

If the theft-deniers refuse to recognize what may happen, they make it easier for it to happen... yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #89

They will always do whatever is necessary to reach their goal. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #88

Wasting precious time ... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #45

Maybe I'm missing something, but all that story says is that Musk knew the results of the election earlier than he Fil1957 Tuesday #16

If musk knew the vote early he was tampering with the election and was into the Central Tabulators and the Botany Tuesday #24

Coincidentally, the internet shut down for hours across states in months running up to Nov 2024. More than one source ancianita Tuesday #30

It is a detriment to a fair and accurate election, when people refuse to question that which defies logic. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #90

O.K. which one of these things is wrong? Botany Tuesday #20

Where is the evidence beyond vibes? mr715 Tuesday #22

Almost every one of those points can be .. Botany Tuesday #33

Post removed Post removed Tuesday #38

Authentic Frontier Gibberish Botany Tuesday #67

Love the plausible timeline. But is there a credible link to make the timeline credible? Here's what DTC Starlink is ancianita Tuesday #34

Also, lasers have fuck-all to do with Starlink's potential to interfere with voting machines. LudwigPastorius Tuesday #35

Of course not. It's was an EXAMPLE of an impossible to prove conspiracy theory. The Starlink connection is through ancianita Tuesday #65

This was not about the voting machines but about the tabulators which had firmware patches placed .. Botany 6 hrs ago #117

*sigh* LudwigPastorius 2 hrs ago #122

it's not that anything is wrong there but there's simply no mechanism or proof that votes were changed there LymphocyteLover 10 hrs ago #99

I will graciously accept apologies from people who accused me Bluetus Tuesday #26

All federal election material, by law has to be kept 22 months questionseverything Tuesday #29

Have you noticed that neither Musk nor Trump care about any laws? Bluetus Tuesday #36

Have you noticed neither of them are able to chew gum mr715 Tuesday #41

No, I have not noticed that about Musk. Bluetus Tuesday #58

In my county in Illinois I can do a foia and look at the ballots for the last questionseverything Tuesday #42

Absolutely. Even if it isn't explicitly allowed by law Bluetus Tuesday #46

Please don't be offended but I think we spend too much time trying to figure out "how " questionseverything Tuesday #50

I'm not offended, but that sounds pretty quixotic to me Bluetus Tuesday #59

Hand counting paper ballots greatly reduces the chance of hacking questionseverything Tuesday #69

That will be a tough sell Bluetus Yesterday #74

Maybe a compromise could be only hand counting the top two races? questionseverything 22 hrs ago #76

I don't think people will accept such a delay Bluetus 14 hrs ago #80

How long a hand count takes depends on the size of the precinct questionseverything 14 hrs ago #82

It greatly increases the chance of inaccurate counts EdmondDantes_ 10 hrs ago #105

I'm talking small precincts counted by hand ( start with top two federal races) questionseverything 10 hrs ago #106

I have evidence, you have a gut feeling EdmondDantes_ 6 hrs ago #118

Here are the questions I asked questionseverything. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #94

Hhmmm. Could someone organize folks in the important counties to do FOIA requests? yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #93

It doesn't hurt to ask and if nothing else it would identify which election authorities were transparent and which aren' questionseverything 10 hrs ago #101

If I could identify the counties that matter with some research, yellow dahlia 9 hrs ago #108

Wisconsin jumps to mind, not because they are the most corrupt questionseverything 9 hrs ago #111

Pick one, wether it's one county or one town or one precinct questionseverything 7 hrs ago #112

I'm glad some of us are paying attention. yellow dahlia 7 hrs ago #113

So there's still time...in theory. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #92

And as I said when Bluetus posted that information, B.See Tuesday #73

Thank you for this succinct summary and explanation. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #91

This is just embarrassing. LudwigPastorius Tuesday #32

I'm not a big believer in this particular theory. BannonsLiver Tuesday #39

lol, is probably good enough? questionseverything Tuesday #44

Sounds great. BannonsLiver Tuesday #71

No one has to change the tabulator, just to change what the spreadsheet reports questionseverything Tuesday #72

Abracadabra! danieljsf Tuesday #48

Ashley obnoxiousdrunk Tuesday #53

Post removed Post removed Tuesday #55

Down-ballot Discrepancies LessAspin Tuesday #56

Find 11,780 Votes LessAspin Tuesday #61

This should be an op, very well put together questionseverything 22 hrs ago #75

I second that motion. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #96

Hear! Hear! I say it is harder to make the rigging work when there is a mandate. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #95

De rec this CT bollocks (& an attack on Biden, Harris, & Blue state leaders) from BlueAnon loons at This Will Hold Celerity Tuesday #68

Ashley St. Clair was a RW grifter until her money spigot got shut off. Seeking Serenity Tuesday #70

I take away the positive call to action - we can DO something. yellow dahlia 12 hrs ago #83

Musk is an unrepentant LIAR and I'm not surprised he'd tell someone something like this. AStern 10 hrs ago #100

Lock him up Trueblue1968 9 hrs ago #109