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Peaceful Protester

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80. Blowback, Sorrow and Consequences
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 11:21 PM
Dec 2012

Chalmers Johnson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalmers_Johnson#The_Blowback_series

"In Blowback, I set out to explain why we are hated around the world. The concept "blowback" does not just mean retaliation for things our government has done to and in foreign countries. It refers to retaliation for the numerous illegal operations we have carried out abroad that were kept totally secret from the American public. This means that when the retaliation comes -- as it did so spectacularly on September 11, 2001 -- the American public is unable to put the events in context. So they tend to support acts intended to lash out against the perpetrators, thereby most commonly preparing the ground for yet another cycle of blowback.

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"The Sorrows of Empire was written during the American preparations for and launching of the invasions and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq. I began to study our continuous military buildup since World War II and the 737 military bases we currently maintain in other people's countries. This empire of bases is the concrete manifestation of our global hegemony, and many of the blowback-inducing wars we have conducted had as their true purpose the sustaining and expanding of this network. We do not think of these overseas deployments as a form of empire; in fact, most Americans do not give them any thought at all until something truly shocking, such as the treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, brings them to our attention. But the people living next door to these bases and dealing with the swaggering soldiers who brawl and sometimes rape their women certainly think of them as imperial enclaves, just as the people of ancient Iberia or nineteenth-century India knew that they were victims of foreign colonization."

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"In Nemesis, I have tried to present historical, political, economic, and philosophical evidence of where our current behavior is likely to lead. Specifically, I believe that to maintain our empire abroad requires resources and commitments that will inevitably undercut our domestic democracy and in the end produce a military dictatorship or its civilian equivalent. The founders of our nation understood this well and tried to create a form of government – a republic – that would prevent this from occurring. But the combination of huge standing armies, almost continuous wars, military Keynesianism, and ruinous military expenses have destroyed our republican structure in favor of an imperial presidency. We are on the cusp of losing our democracy for the sake of keeping our empire. Once a nation is started down that path, the dynamics that apply to all empires come into play – isolation, overstretch, the uniting of forces opposed to imperialism, and bankruptcy."

Dismantling the Empire: America's Last Best Hope
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How else are we going to destroy the rest of the world if we don't have Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #1
And Whats the Deal Anyway? moman Dec 2012 #2
It is senseless how these factors can be ignored by the RW and the focus and demon becomes the poor The Wielding Truth Dec 2012 #64
No, no, no, "Look at the shiny object over there!" Just like a "lot" of "people" on the internet patrice Dec 2012 #3
Thank you. It's simple, not rocket science. grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #4
yea, i thought we all had to suffer.....not the military. spanone Dec 2012 #5
Can't talk about that! Cleita Dec 2012 #6
I thought the space aliens were already here. Now I'm disappointed. No, wait, they run the MIC. freshwest Dec 2012 #8
I for one welcome our space overlords when they arrive. They can't fuck things Cleita Dec 2012 #10
Maybe you need to remember that Twilight Zone episode "To Serve Man" dballance Dec 2012 #15
Oh, that's kind of like that old Rod Taylor Time Machine movie, Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #17
One of their scariest episodes. Right up there with 'It's on the wing!' by the Shat. freshwest Dec 2012 #18
The Twilight Zone is STILL Classic dballance Dec 2012 #37
I agree. The Twilight Zone also covered a lot of moral issues. I recently found a newer episode. freshwest Dec 2012 #49
Have you watched AMC in the last few years? lunatica Dec 2012 #72
AGREE. maddiemom Dec 2012 #73
The Talking Tina doll was scary too. SummerSnow Dec 2012 #75
They wouldn't dare eat me. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #32
The Aliens still treated us better than republicans Heather MC Dec 2012 #41
I DO Generally have the desire to tell the GOP to BITE ME /eom dballance Dec 2012 #43
Here's the photo for that episode lunatica Dec 2012 #70
I'm looking forward to their intervention as well, Cleita. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #16
Ob, no, you missed the whole thing. They are here and fucked it because they're just visiting. freshwest Dec 2012 #19
They could fuck it up much more lunatica Dec 2012 #71
DU rec CrazyOrangeCat Dec 2012 #7
I think that's how you know it's all a sham Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #9
That would be taken care of by not reaching a deal, which is exactly why republicans want a deal. DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #11
I think you have been watching too much GOP propaganda Ian62 Dec 2012 #77
Your information is appreciated, your rudeness is uncalled for, typical of what's wrong with DU. DrewFlorida Jan 2013 #82
Sorry I didn't mean to be rude Ian62 Jan 2013 #83
Yes, I know how much the U.S. spends on military and I think it's rediculous, what I didn't DrewFlorida Jan 2013 #84
That's like the biggest money maker and employer in this country pediatricmedic Dec 2012 #12
Good point... bobclark86 Dec 2012 #22
Not millions Ian62 Dec 2012 #78
Food for bombs. L0oniX Dec 2012 #13
Now that's food for thought......nt/ think Dec 2012 #21
Precisely! Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #14
Social Security recipients The Wizard Dec 2012 #20
All for one and one for all Left Turn Only Dec 2012 #23
Exactly! KILL THE EMPIRE!!!! Taverner Dec 2012 #24
And they all end the same way! BobbyBoring Dec 2012 #67
Defense spending Abbraxus Dec 2012 #25
Yes, but who is likely to be screwed? Jack Sprat Dec 2012 #30
Yep Abbraxus is on target polynomial Dec 2012 #34
Good point. I would like to see some overseas bases closed. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #46
How else can we ensure a new generation of "terrorists" to keep the arms industry healthy? BlueStreak Dec 2012 #26
"Is that who writes the largest political campaign checks?" UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #27
America's military spends $500,000,000 each year just on it's marching bands think Dec 2012 #28
Think what that would do for The Arts in this country. Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #50
Over $1 TRILLION spent on defense, not one member of Congress willing to address this. Initech Dec 2012 #29
I thought it was just under $700 billion last year mostlyconfused Dec 2012 #35
Most of the funding of Iraq and Afghanistan wars Jack Sprat Dec 2012 #38
That was true under Bush the lesser BobbyBoring Dec 2012 #68
I wish there was more of a movement creeksneakers2 Dec 2012 #31
Check those Congressional portfolios...bet you'll see a LOT of military industrial stocks in 'em. MADem Dec 2012 #33
The irony is that this military has managed to lose 2 wars in little over 10 years. That's got to be coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #36
HEY! We didn't lose! BobbyBoring Dec 2012 #66
Are increasing drone strikes in Pakistan OK though? SF Dockworker Dec 2012 #39
yep. just like the cost of the wars, no discussion is serious unless this is mentioned pasto76 Dec 2012 #40
All that military might and couldn't stop 9/11 form happening .. huh? YOHABLO Dec 2012 #42
do not forget the gorilla daybranch Dec 2012 #44
I think that the gorilla Jack Sprat Dec 2012 #45
How about a large bull? latebloomer Dec 2012 #47
Maybe we should keep some of it though just in case SF Dockworker Dec 2012 #48
We don't cut it all, that would be suicide, but trimming half a trillion would be doable pediatricmedic Dec 2012 #53
Any cut would come out of GDP, is the worry Recursion Dec 2012 #60
let me guess Skittles Dec 2012 #54
Let me tell you SF Dockworker Dec 2012 #65
Welcome to DU Recursion Dec 2012 #58
The missiles weren't put in Cuba without provocation. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #85
Exactly judesedit Dec 2012 #51
True - it was even more ridiculous last time around bhikkhu Dec 2012 #52
The US military is killing the very thing they say they are trying to protect. gtar100 Dec 2012 #55
Lobbyists for the defense contracts make the NRA lobbyists AllyCat Dec 2012 #56
FEDERAL BUDGET 101 SHRED Dec 2012 #57
Yep. Let's try some laser-jet-robot austerity first. DirkGently Dec 2012 #59
i've noticed that too barbtries Dec 2012 #61
Offense Dept. obxhead Dec 2012 #62
I thought we were done with Chris Christie threads until the primaries Doctor_J Dec 2012 #63
It's always four more years of Cheney. Octafish Dec 2012 #69
Informative and apt article Jack Sprat Dec 2012 #74
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2012 #76
K&R except there's a whole herd of the proto-pachyderms ruining the carpet. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #79
Blowback, Sorrow and Consequences Peaceful Protester Dec 2012 #80
What if instead of ignoring the information, Peaceful Protester Dec 2012 #81
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