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pat_k

(13,393 posts)
19. Is the regime utterly clueless about the magnitude of the IRGC/Basij military, industrial, economic conglomerate???
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 04:35 PM
Mar 4
I am not hearing any one of the idiots cheerleading the insanity acknowledging the uniquely formidable infrastructure.

With the limited reading I've done, it seems pretty clear that the IRGC and supporting volunteer Basij army constitute a massive force that is deeply embedded in every part of the economy and civil society. It also seems pretty clear that the IRGC wields vast oppressive power that is effectively independent of the regime leadership.

The revolutionary guard corp is estimated to be 100,000 to 200,00O people strong, with power centers throughout the economy.

And regarding the Basij, there are more indepth sources, but wikipedia provides a decent summary:

From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basij

is a paramilitary volunteer militia ...

Subgroupings of the Basij include the

Primary Schools Basij Cadets [Basij-e Danesh-Amouzi], (also reportedly called Omidan or Hopes),[55]
Middle schools basij, Pouyandegan or Seekers,[55]
High school Basij, Pishgaman or Standard Bearers,[55]
the Students Basij Cadets [Basij-e Daneshjouyi],
the University Basij Cadets,
the Public Service Basij (Basij-e Edarii), and
the Tribal Basij.[33]

Estimates of the number of Basij vary, with its leadership giving higher figures than outside commentators. Official estimates are as high as 23.8 million.[57] A scholar of the Basij, Saeid Golkar, estimates their total membership at approximately one million, and their security forces in the tens of thousands.[19] As of 2020 there were reportedly between 40,000[19] and 54,000 Basij bases (Paygha-e Basij) around Iran.[58]

Economic power
According to the US Treasury, the Basij have a multi-billion-dollar "covert network" of businesses.[19] According to Saeid Golkar, the influence of the Basij in the Iranian economy, has grown to extend to "every sector", from "construction and real estate to the stock market".[54] In 1996, six organizations were put under the control of the Basij Cooperative Foundation (BCF)

The Basijis Housing Institution (Moassesseh-ye Tamin-e Maskan-e Basijian).
The Basijis Medical Institution (Moassesseh-ye Tamin-e darman-e Basijian).
The Basijis No-Interest Loan Institute (Moassesseh-ye Gharz al-Hassaneh-ye Basijian).
The Basijis Consumer-Goods Provision Institution (Moassesseh-ye Tamin-e Aghlam-e Masrafi-ye Basijian).
The Cultural Artistic Institute of the Warriors of Islam (Moassesseh-ye Farhangi Honari-ye Razmandegan-e Eslam).
The Scientific and Pedagogic Services Institute of the Fighters (Moassesseh-ye Khadamat-e Elmi va Amouzeshi-ye Razmandegan).[59][54]
As the government privatized companies under president Hashemi Rafsanjani, The Basij Cooperative Foundation became the Basij's main mechanism for "purchasing entire industries on the cheap"


There is also the Quds Force
From Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quds_Force

It specializes in unconventional warfare and military intelligence operations. The U.S. Army's General Stanley McChrystal describes the Quds Force as an organization analogous to a combination of the CIA and the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) in the United States.[10] Responsible for extraterritorial operations,[11] the Quds Force supports non-state actors in many countries, including Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the Houthi movement, and Shia militias in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.[11]


Fetterman's (and others) "we'll just keep killing them til they are gone" is beyond stupid.

Killing ayatollahs doesn't touch the vast infrastructure. The IRGC / Basij is like a cancer that has metastasized to every organ of the body. I fear that the idiots in charge will be perfectly happy to kill the host and destroy the lives of every Iranian in their pursuit of "victory." And clearly, MBC and Netanyahu would be thrilled with such a result.


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Has he been tested for rabies lately, he's positively frothing at the mouth Blues Heron Mar 4 #1
Fetterman isn't well. sop Mar 4 #2
He is mentally ill. Trueblue1968 Mar 4 #22
Cognitive Deficiency Club Bmoboy Mar 4 #3
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"full throated" UpInArms Mar 4 #30
A throat full Traildogbob Mar 4 #51
His throat is full of his voice. Blame Keats. Ilikepurple Mar 4 #31
Maybe a body part JBTaurus83 Mar 4 #33
He's becoming less and less inhibited. Ilsa Mar 4 #6
He dresses like he's going to Walmart on Black Friday PatSeg Mar 4 #29
ITA. I think it is disrespectful to the Ilsa Mar 4 #49
I don't understand it either PatSeg Mar 5 #56
I remember visiting the Capitol on my own around Ilsa Mar 5 #59
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Fine dining places, supper clubs etc. moniss Mar 4 #52
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My Senator is not right in the head. I am ashamed to have voted for him debm55 Mar 4 #7
The other choice was Mehmet Oz. No shame in voiting "D". JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 4 #8
No I meant to say I should have primaried him with C.Lamb. I would never vote for Oz. debm55 Mar 4 #13
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Can the 25th Amendment apply to senators? Wednesdays Mar 4 #9
You know, with a six year term at risk, there should be Ilsa Mar 4 #50
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Senator Whip-poor-will Mar 4 #41
In other words, he has no problem with the killing of women. And children. Ferrets are Cool Mar 4 #10
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It's like he's trying to become the MTG of the senate. Maru Kitteh Mar 4 #12
Why should Americans die for the bloodthirsty monster Netanyahu? dalton99a Mar 4 #14
Killing, killing, killing until they are all gone. Irish_Dem Mar 4 #15
That's not even human Autumn Mar 4 #17
Not even a proper sentence. ramblings... Amaryllis Mar 4 #26
No it isn't MustLoveBeagles Mar 4 #32
Yes we all know people who have had strokes and don't turn into psychopaths. Irish_Dem Mar 4 #40
What a fucking psycho.. He should grab a gun ang get his ass over to Israel. Autumn Mar 4 #16
If he feels that strongly about it he should MustLoveBeagles Mar 4 #34
If it's a bluff why kill them lame54 Mar 4 #18
Is the regime utterly clueless about the magnitude of the IRGC/Basij military, industrial, economic conglomerate??? pat_k Mar 4 #19
Open depravity beyond shame Ponietz Mar 4 #20
Replace sofa w/ Israel and Vance w/ Fetterman.... chowder66 Mar 4 #21
He needs a primary challenger when he is up for re-election. nt City Lights Mar 4 #23
It seems we're always stuck with the democrat like that Tribetime Mar 4 #24
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The words of a psychopath. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 4 #27
I no longer think the stroke caused this MustLoveBeagles Mar 4 #37
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Underestimation put five battleships on the bottom of Pearl Harbor. Four more were disabled. flashman13 Mar 4 #48
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