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EarlG

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84. The posting rules are the same everywhere on DU
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 11:46 AM
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But remember, for the most part you all are the ones responsible for enforcing those rules. That’s why The Way Forward forum provides a reminder that there is an awful lot of wiggle room between “bashing” and “constructive criticism” and people are going to have different ideas on where those lines should be drawn. It also provides a common sense reminder about how to avoid getting posts removed.

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Maybe that's why EarlG gave us The Way Forward forum. quaint 17 hrs ago #1
The posting rules are the same everywhere on DU EarlG 14 hrs ago #84
A concern is, snot 4 hrs ago #202
To answer your questions EarlG 2 hrs ago #209
Get a candidate who supports those things to run in a primary creeksneakers2 1 hr ago #211
It's a bit tricky... ._. 17 hrs ago #2
Yup, what Jason Crow said last week on TV gab13by13 17 hrs ago #7
Sorry, it's not the Democratic Party. It's Republican voters, third party voters, and petulant nonvoters lapucelle 17 hrs ago #3
Kamala Harris won the election. gab13by13 17 hrs ago #6
Yup, pedo Trump cheated on the vote count Farmer-Rick 16 hrs ago #30
That's a perfect way to keep losing iemanja 1 hr ago #213
Yup! yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #77
I'm noticing JustAnotherGen 17 hrs ago #9
I can count the leftists I've actually corresponded with online TBF 14 hrs ago #93
I can't do that JustAnotherGen 13 hrs ago #119
Can you "be in community" with Donald Trump? TBF 12 hrs ago #140
I disagree JustAnotherGen 12 hrs ago #145
What is "Magapub/CSA" - TBF 11 hrs ago #159
Magapub JustAnotherGen 10 hrs ago #163
I am old school labor - originally from Wisconsin TBF 8 hrs ago #179
And maga-pub IS NOT a political party---- it is a criminal domestic terrorist organization Jack Valentino 3 hrs ago #207
What does any of this mean...Demanding concessions?...Taking up arms against each other? PeaceWave 10 hrs ago #166
Full Disclosure - I'm in NJ JustAnotherGen 12 hrs ago #149
This insists that any change must come from our opposition. Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #36
I work hard, every single year, to elect Democrats in races big and small. lapucelle 15 hrs ago #45
I think we here all work hard to elect Democrats. And we have been doing so for years. And yet, here we are. Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #48
Work harder to shut down opposition narratives, most especially those from purists and punishers lapucelle 15 hrs ago #52
Which, by definition, has nothing to do with shutting down discussions on DU. Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #53
To begin with, expressing an opinion on a topic is not "shutting down discussion" on a topic. lapucelle 14 hrs ago #66
Really? Cirsium 14 hrs ago #92
That's an odd definition of "purist". lapucelle 14 hrs ago #99
Exactly Cirsium 13 hrs ago #117
Even given the definitional problems (and notwithstanding the random use of latin), lapucelle 13 hrs ago #127
hi back Cirsium 13 hrs ago #128
Recognizing a Latin word and saying your conclusion doesn't follow from your premises is not an argument either Ilikepurple 5 hrs ago #198
I didn't take that as an attack JustAnotherGen 8 hrs ago #180
agreed Cirsium 8 hrs ago #183
We shouldn't "shut down" speech Just_Vote_Dem 14 hrs ago #97
Couldn't agree more with you more Scrivener. choie 15 hrs ago #49
It's defining the mistakes JustAnotherGen 8 hrs ago #181
Personally... Chemical Bill 6 hrs ago #190
I agree with you 100% Scrivener7. It is not a fluke that we are in this mess. flashman13 14 hrs ago #71
I'm really looking forward to the primaries too. We have an incredible bench, and Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #73
You are? Divergent views within our own party might lead to hurt feelings afterwards. PeaceWave 3 hrs ago #208
+1 leftstreet 14 hrs ago #103
Joe Biden WAS a great President. Chemical Bill 6 hrs ago #193
Well said. Thank you again! KPN 12 hrs ago #132
Isn't amazing that SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #40
Thanks for illustrating the problem. FoxNewsSucks 14 hrs ago #65
The problem is Trump and republicans SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #75
I have never seen anyone here say that Democrats are the enemy FoxNewsSucks 14 hrs ago #78
Good SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #88
And what Scrivener is asking is HOW did we get here? CrispyQ 14 hrs ago #100
We got here because of Republicans SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #110
So was it an attack or not? Ilikepurple 6 hrs ago #192
Have a nice day SocialDemocrat61 6 hrs ago #194
What are you doing? Cirsium 14 hrs ago #94
Have a nice day! SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #98
With deliberate misrepresentation MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #109
Have a nice day! SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #111
Unrec. This is why we can't have nice things. TBF 13 hrs ago #112
It's the Democratic Party which nominates candidates which voters either accept or reject Jose Garcia 11 hrs ago #154
With the (somewhat) arguable exception of 2024, voters choose the candidates. lapucelle 10 hrs ago #165
Mahalo, lapucelle! Some seem to forget Cha 9 hrs ago #170
Thank you for this thread, gab13by13 17 hrs ago #4
I'm firmly in the FIGHT NOW group. n/t PatrickforB 16 hrs ago #34
Same here. And I'm highly suspect of the motives of anyone demanding we do otherwise. FoxNewsSucks 14 hrs ago #67
Careful! Floyd R. Turbo 17 hrs ago #5
Yep. And that's the problem. This has nothing to do with criticizing Democrats. It has to do with looking at Scrivener7 17 hrs ago #8
Jason Crow backs up your thread, gab13by13 16 hrs ago #19
I'm with you right up until the part about nominating a republican. But I get your point. Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #22
Miles Taylor has no political experience and we know karynnj 15 hrs ago #38
Not fair comparing Miles Taylor with Liz Cheney, gab13by13 15 hrs ago #57
I will listen to him but just based on what you said MadameButterfly 15 hrs ago #63
I remember all the support here for Michael Avenatti for a presidential run. MichMan 15 hrs ago #64
That doesn't mean we shouldn't want fighters, FoxNewsSucks 14 hrs ago #68
I remember it and thinking it beyond stupid karynnj 14 hrs ago #74
While I'm grateful to Conservatives who have drawn a line and chosen to MadameButterfly 15 hrs ago #62
nominating a REPUKE? Skittles 1 hr ago #217
If we don't look at the issues of the Dem structure, and question it, then we are in a cult... yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #81
If you look at my sig line JustAnotherGen 16 hrs ago #10
They want all poor people dead, depopulation is a part of Project 2025. gab13by13 16 hrs ago #20
"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever Ping Tung 16 hrs ago #11
"I am a Christian and a Democrat. That's all": FDR, when asked to define his political philosophy. lapucelle 16 hrs ago #21
That was his choice. That's what democracy is supposed to be about...choice. Ping Tung 16 hrs ago #26
Yes, folks choose to vote for Republicans or third-party candidates or to withhold any vote as punishment lapucelle 13 hrs ago #120
And add mainstream media to that list Just_Vote_Dem 13 hrs ago #125
Just as there's nothing wrong calling out the politicians who support or vote for Ping Tung 12 hrs ago #143
Sir, this is a Wendy's Johnny2X2X 16 hrs ago #12
I'm not talking about ripping on Dems and I'm not talking about anything that violates the TOS. Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #13
I'd be willing to bet that the same posters jumping all over you also FoxNewsSucks 14 hrs ago #69
I actually express hatred JustAnotherGen 8 hrs ago #184
Fire the strategists and consultant class, The party needs to stop making the same mistakes. yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #86
YES! The 'strategists' and 'Consultants" don't seem to have Bettie 12 hrs ago #137
That really is at the base of all of it. Scrivener7 12 hrs ago #144
The other thing that would make a HUGE difference Bettie 12 hrs ago #146
Indeed. yellow dahlia 8 hrs ago #186
Any time we stop speaking truth, we benefit those who want to hide the truth. hamsterjill 16 hrs ago #14
Yours is a great post also, gab13by13 16 hrs ago #23
Thank you. hamsterjill 16 hrs ago #24
Agreed! yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #87
It's just demographics Sympthsical 16 hrs ago #15
But at this point, none of us is. I'm that comfortable boomer you describe. Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #16
Absolutely Sympthsical 16 hrs ago #27
Cheerleaders, the party is always right, swarm, posse, toe the line, echo chamber, blind loyalty, marching in lockstep, betsuni 16 hrs ago #17
And supposedly, MorbidButterflyTat 13 hrs ago #116
. SunImp 12 hrs ago #131
Finding out facts instead of leaping to negative conclusions about Democrats is mocked as mindless loyalty. Projection. betsuni 10 hrs ago #164
We failed to read history, but it's only now that history is understood at all bucolic_frolic 16 hrs ago #18
Somewhat related to your OP, discussions quickly sink... harumph 16 hrs ago #25
So much yes to this! All those bad movies about evil conglomerates trying to rule the world? Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #29
My daughter quipped the other day - "Who knew the original Superman movie was a road map..." harumph 15 hrs ago #42
We are at a confluence of all the evil empire "Bond villain" types. yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #90
Time for a paradigm shift. yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #89
As I have said before: popsdenver 15 hrs ago #39
Amen, sis! demmiblue 16 hrs ago #28
I cleared my ignore list a while ago Bettie 12 hrs ago #142
Trump 2.0 could have been prevented by closing the border and having a normal primary dalton99a 16 hrs ago #31
Thank you! intheflow 16 hrs ago #32
I agree popsdenver 15 hrs ago #43
... SSJVegeta 16 hrs ago #33
In his diplomatic, inoffensive way, I think President Obama pointed the way Martin Eden 16 hrs ago #35
I make no bones about it JustAnotherGen 8 hrs ago #188
DURec leftstreet 15 hrs ago #37
For example, gab13by13 15 hrs ago #41
I think that's a perfect example because it's my opinion that, if Democratic leaders had not gotten so much Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #44
Yep, things changed Just_Vote_Dem 15 hrs ago #46
And it seems like it took a little outrage to convince them of the fact. Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #50
That's the problem in a nutshell. AloeVera 14 hrs ago #102
People are pissed at the wait-and-see say-nothing do-nothing approach. dalton99a 15 hrs ago #47
We're in a partial shutdown at the moment. lapucelle 13 hrs ago #113
Eight Democrats voted to end the fillibuster in October, ten in March. Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #126
Your vote counts in both instances are off by one. lapucelle 12 hrs ago #133
So a groundswell of constituent opinion has no effect on your elected officials? Scrivener7 12 hrs ago #134
Social media posts and constituent opinion are two very different things. N/T lapucelle 10 hrs ago #167
i completely agree with you. We should be able to speak freely if it is for constructive reason samsingh 15 hrs ago #51
That's a good example of a topic we should discuss in detail. Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #114
exactly - and given the power trump is wielding samsingh 13 hrs ago #121
So the lesson, which I hope we have learned, is that we release it all as soon as we are able. Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #122
there can be no healing until the crimes are punished samsingh 13 hrs ago #123
Concise and to the point. Well said. Escurumbele 15 hrs ago #54
100% Agree, Scrivener 7. If we can't see our own part in something we can't improve... johnnyplankton 15 hrs ago #55
Everything changes except one thing that was never addressed, and still isn't. usonian 15 hrs ago #56
It is important to note that WE elected our officials to represent us Grim Chieftain 15 hrs ago #58
That's why we have primaries SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #60
And if they don't uphold the promises they made in the primaries? Grim Chieftain 14 hrs ago #70
Really depends on the promises they made SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #76
And it doesn't need to be a fight. I made mistakes in my job. Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #79
Agreed. yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #95
Wanting to learn from the past & do better in the future... CaptainTruth 15 hrs ago #59
Good Luck with that here. n/t ihaveaquestion 15 hrs ago #61
When do we rank-n-file types get to see the Election 2024 Postmortem? Kid Berwyn 14 hrs ago #72
Spot on! yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #96
Yup Joinfortmill 14 hrs ago #80
This is what those finger-waggers really are FoxNewsSucks 14 hrs ago #82
I do think the DNC is starting to realize that much of the grass roots is really pissed at the party leadership Bluetus 14 hrs ago #83
I think recent events have provided us with a pretty extensive list of things we Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #85
I have a list. You have a list. The Party does not have a list. Bluetus 14 hrs ago #105
Please link to these threads: MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #91
There was one in particular this morning that was a good example. I can't link to it. For reasons I will not state. Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #107
Milquetoast, strongly worded letters, old guard, status quo, gerontocracy, Vichy Dems, Surrender Dems, betsuni 13 hrs ago #124
Good post Scrivener7, and a worthwhile question to ask. I feel the biggest mistake we may have made is to underestimate c-rational 14 hrs ago #101
Definitely. I agree with all of that. Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #115
Right? They see us as the enemy Bettie 12 hrs ago #147
Well said, Scrivener. yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #104
What a great topic. Absent discussions like these, we Dems are merely REACTING to what the other side does. PeaceWave 14 hrs ago #106
I see the same cheerleaders on this thread. hamsterjill 14 hrs ago #108
I hear you. harumph 12 hrs ago #150
You are absolutely correct! hamsterjill 5 hrs ago #199
Our role in getting here today Quiet Em 13 hrs ago #118
Sadly, I think this is true. We have lost so much civil rights ground Scrivener7 12 hrs ago #139
I am 59 Bettie 12 hrs ago #151
The adults gulliver 12 hrs ago #129
The Democrats I know aren't lazy, neglectful OR self-indulgent. Scrivener7 12 hrs ago #135
"Romans and countrymen, lend me your ears?" gulliver 12 hrs ago #136
Thank you so much Scrivener. KPN 12 hrs ago #130
Great OP SunImp 12 hrs ago #138
Thank you for the thread canetoad 12 hrs ago #141
Loyalty means being willing to examine our own missteps Torchlight 12 hrs ago #148
It's not possible currently to discuss mistakes and we are doomed to repeat them again. Melon 11 hrs ago #152
How is it happening in Texas? SocialDemocrat61 11 hrs ago #156
Beto Melon 10 hrs ago #162
What's he running for? SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #169
See Below Quote Melon 9 hrs ago #172
So what did Beto SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #173
This thread is all about why we don't do that.... Melon 9 hrs ago #175
So who should run in Texas? SocialDemocrat61 8 hrs ago #176
This and your gatekeeping is the issue that prevents open discussion and improvement. Melon 8 hrs ago #177
I'm just trying to understand SocialDemocrat61 8 hrs ago #178
Why? Are you in Texas? Or are you trying to gatekeep? Melon 6 hrs ago #191
No, but am trying to understand what is going on In Texas. SocialDemocrat61 6 hrs ago #196
And I say again...go read the threads on Talarico or Crockett Melon 2 hrs ago #210
I was asking for your perspective SocialDemocrat61 1 hr ago #215
I have a relative running for the Senate, so luckily Scrivener7 11 hrs ago #157
It has nothing to do with being loyal. It's about fighting back against (often) unfair and unwarranted criticism. W_HAMILTON 11 hrs ago #153
Well, "bullshit criticism" is in the eye of the beholder. Orrex 6 hrs ago #195
I may be late to this discussion, but I read it early this morning and just now thought I would add my 2cents. Ninga 11 hrs ago #155
We do not need to do this before midterms and publicly oldmanlynn 11 hrs ago #158
Suicidal has been the lack of transparency and free discussion Melon 10 hrs ago #161
The right time is always behind closed doors oldmanlynn 37 min ago #218
Absolutely agree! And I've noticed another of the cheerleaders' tactics: Orrex 11 hrs ago #160
That's not an accurate metaphor for your point EdmondDantes_ 8 hrs ago #187
Thanks, but I know what I've seen, and I'm ready to be judged Orrex 7 hrs ago #189
No I expressly don't. But you leap to that conclusion EdmondDantes_ 3 hrs ago #203
Let's just say that the discussion's been going on since before July 21, 2024 Orrex 3 hrs ago #204
And they feel just as strongly as you do about their name calling being calling it as they see it EdmondDantes_ 3 hrs ago #205
I've accused you of exactly nothing except joining the conversation late Orrex 3 hrs ago #206
The key: 100% confidence one is 100% correct, obviously morally righteously correct. betsuni 1 hr ago #212
I would remark that biggest reason Dems "lost" Mblaze 10 hrs ago #168
Sounds like you have a problem with the jury system. LudwigPastorius 9 hrs ago #171
She just made the argument iemanja 1 hr ago #214
I choose to belong to the Democratic party Progressive dog 9 hrs ago #174
I choose to exercise my democratic rights iemanja 1 hr ago #216
Time and place. Zelda_Orchid 8 hrs ago #182
Based OP. BannonsLiver 8 hrs ago #185
The number of RECs, replies, and views to this OP shows just how important to the DU community... Ol Janx Spirit 6 hrs ago #197
I think we all have perspectives and ideas that have value, even if only to further a productive dialectic Ilikepurple 4 hrs ago #201
Absolutely agree & Thank You for saying it! 👍nt Raine 4 hrs ago #200
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