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highplainsdem

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Sat Nov 22, 2025, 04:28 PM Nov 2025

Something Disturbing Happens When You "Learn" Something With ChatGPT [View all]

https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/learning-with-chatgpt-disturbing

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“When people rely on large language models to summarize information on a topic for them, they tend to develop shallower knowledge about it compared to learning through a standard Google search,” study co-lead author Shiri Melumad, a professor at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, wrote in an essay for The Conversation about her work.

The findings are based on an analysis of seven studies with more than 10,000 participants. The gist of their experiments went like this: the participants were told to learn about a topic, and were randomly assigned to either only use an AI chatbot like ChatGPT to do their research, or a standard search engine like Google. At the end, the participants were asked to write advice to a friend about what they learned.

A clear pattern emerged. The participants who used AI to do their research wrote shorter advice, with generic tips and less factual information, while the people who used a Google search produced more detailed and thoughtful tips. The pattern held even after controlling for factors like the information the users saw during their research by showing each group the same facts, or what tools they used.

“The findings confirmed that, even when holding the facts and platform constant, learning from synthesized LLM responses led to shallower knowledge compared to gathering, interpreting and synthesizing information for oneself via standard web links,” Melumad wrote.

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This new study was published in the journal PNAS Nexus: https://academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/article/4/10/pgaf316/8303888

The essay one of the study's authors wrote: https://theconversation.com/learning-with-ai-falls-short-compared-to-old-fashioned-web-search-269760

Sadly, despite the study showing that using chatbots for research dumbed users down, the study's authors hope to find ways to make chatbots force their increasingly dumbed-down users to work a bit harder and thus learn a bit more.

The obvious solution is really the only smart one: Step away from the chatbot.
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Only for those who take it at face value. I immediately expect something to be wrong-- at least partially and hlthe2b Nov 2025 #1
Yes that's the totally sensible approach ... to distrust the information until it has been corroborated FakeNoose Nov 2025 #25
Also understand how low even that bar was. Remember the disdain for "Google University" RockRaven Nov 2025 #2
I've seen so many people posting "I ran this by Chat GPT and this is what it came up with" or chia Nov 2025 #3
That is so cringe-worthy to me. I can't believe how uncritically people have accepted this Iris Nov 2025 #10
If you're going to use AI... ultralite001 Nov 2025 #4
It's Cliff Notes in a new incarnation. Speedy and shallow. IMO. nt allegorical oracle Nov 2025 #5
I'll bet Cliff Notes at least had 'some' human review. And the notes were revised over the years. erronis Nov 2025 #11
Sure ... the Cliff Notes were written by live humans FakeNoose Nov 2025 #26
;-{) Goonch Nov 2025 #6
Whatever chatbot(s?) generated that AI-promoting AI slop answer for you makes no reference at all highplainsdem Nov 2025 #9
Please don't tell other people what to post. Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #40
This is a message board for people to communicate, not a display for AI slop. If it's treated as acceptable highplainsdem Nov 2025 #41
Yeah, we all have our crosses to bear.... Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #42
It was a request saying please, not an order. As for your availing yourself of the technology - it's unlikely highplainsdem Nov 2025 #43
I put my use of any technology whatsoever which will help me to oppose TRUMP Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #44
Kick SheltieLover Nov 2025 #7
Thanks! highplainsdem Nov 2025 #21
Yw. Ty for being our resident expert on ai slop! SheltieLover Nov 2025 #22
Doing a google search is hardly the best way to learn something to begin with... Wounded Bear Nov 2025 #8
I have been using Google's 'NotebookLM', I think with good results. rog Nov 2025 #12
Why aren't you writing those reports yourself, if they're supposedly from you? And why do you want highplainsdem Nov 2025 #20
I'm not sure I'm communicating effectively. rog Nov 2025 #27
I emphasized writing for yourself because writing is critical to thinking and shouldn't be turned over highplainsdem Nov 2025 #33
OK. It's clear that your reading comprehension is limited, since we - apparently - agree ... rog Nov 2025 #34
You ignored my pointing out that genAI tools are fundamentally unethical because they're trained illegally highplainsdem Nov 2025 #35
You're just a wealth of information, aren't you? rog Nov 2025 #36
If you had spent a bit more time simply googling, you'd have learned quickly for yourself that natural highplainsdem Nov 2025 #37
(sigh) re: your assumptions about my diet ... vegan since about 1974 ... rog Nov 2025 #38
Sigh. I haven't "singled you out" - I've posted hundreds of threads here on the pitfalls of using genAI, highplainsdem Nov 2025 #39
I like going down the research holes of Wikipedia, pubmed, phys.org, Medscape, etc. erronis Nov 2025 #13
Butlerian Jihad... BurnDoubt Nov 2025 #14
This!!! paleotn Nov 2025 #19
The ship has sailed. Professors are using it now Sympthsical Nov 2025 #15
And there are more and more studies showing how harmful AI is, how much it dumbs users down. highplainsdem Nov 2025 #23
We've said the same about social media Sympthsical Nov 2025 #24
It's the end of humanity. We're doomed. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #16
Dumb comparisons, and you know it. Or should. highplainsdem Nov 2025 #18
so much wrong with AI barbtries Nov 2025 #17
You can also create your own 'custom' search engine to do that ... rog Nov 2025 #30
Seen on one of my fitness sites last spring: CrispyQ Nov 2025 #28
Butlerian Jihad... BurnDoubt Nov 2025 #29
OOPS!!! BurnDoubt Nov 2025 #31
Seems Obvious OC375 Nov 2025 #32
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