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In reply to the discussion: Here's a good question re Mamdani/TSF [View all]
Cirsium
(3,945 posts)70. Many Democrats have met with Trump
You suggest that progressives are being hypocritical because of tribe loyalty. Many Democrats have met with Trump, including Pelosi and Schumer. Wouldn't it be hypocritical to attack Mamdani and not them?
This line of attack against Mamdani (and progressives in general) is extremely weak.
I still don't see what the mayor-elect of New York City meeting with the President of the US has to do with a Democrat campaigning with an extreme right winger.
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There seems to be no principles-based rationale for these attacks/praises...
W_HAMILTON
Nov 2025
#29
Except there was no terrible, unprincipled faction of DUers attacking Harris for campaigning with Cheney.
Scrivener7
Nov 2025
#79
I didn't limit it to just DU since there certainly were those attacks on other social media.
W_HAMILTON
Nov 2025
#80
"Standing upright without moving" reminds me of a soldier standing at attention.
lapucelle
Nov 2025
#96
Yes, but this subthread is about something else entirely. The claim was that Trump was made a fool of.
lapucelle
Nov 2025
#110
Yeah, your OP isn't a "false equivalence between the Mamdani Trump meeting, and criticism of Harris campaigning
Cha
Nov 2025
#116
While you are wrong about the "false equivalence" claim, you are right about the energy analogy being "crap".
lapucelle
Nov 2025
#122
I randomly pulled up two threads from the time, and DUers were very enthusiastic about both
Scrivener7
Nov 2025
#65
Kamala would have been criticized regardless and Mamdani would be supported regardless...
W_HAMILTON
Nov 2025
#51
No, because damn near no one liked Adams to begin with and he wasn't going to win regardless.
W_HAMILTON
Nov 2025
#55
And it looks like Adams actually met with Trump not during his campaign, but while he was mayor.
W_HAMILTON
Nov 2025
#59
Not the hypocrisy HERE. As you have agreed, it didn't happen here, and you have
Scrivener7
Nov 2025
#82
No, it isn't. These sorts of disingenuous attacks are what brought down Hillary and Kamala.
W_HAMILTON
Nov 2025
#92
And what I'm saying is that you and others in this thread are imagining enemies among your fellow Democrats
Scrivener7
Nov 2025
#94
When Mamdani campaigns with Trump at numerous campaign spots I'll definitely condemn that.
Nanjeanne
Nov 2025
#50
Spectacular double standard. Benefit of the doubt and praise for doing what many others
betsuni
Nov 2025
#61
I don't remember "lots of people on this very site" condemning Harris for this, so I went to the wayback machine.
Scrivener7
Nov 2025
#62
There do seem to be some imaginary monsters floating around for some people.
Scrivener7
Nov 2025
#76
OK. But posts from the time show you were in a very small minority here. Most here were overwhelmingly positive.
Scrivener7
Nov 2025
#111
I look at Mamdani visiting the White House the same way I saw Pelosi visiting the White House.
Iggo
Nov 2025
#112
I'm amused by the whole affair. Clearly the Orange Pedophile is struggling to hold on against an apocalypse. As for...
NNadir
Nov 2025
#66
Well maybe, just maybe, he's trying to do what's best for New York City
NoRethugFriends
Nov 2025
#124
Mamdani campaigned and won on his terms and then met with Trump at his request.
Passages
Nov 2025
#113